Heat

[cyberghostface.insanejournal.com]

 

This is from Creepy #114. 

















Now, I'm sure a number of people will probably say "I guessed that they were in Hell." And I'd agree with you--there really should be no doubt after Jack the Ripper makes an appearance.

That being said, I think the writers knew that you would know. They didn't act like it was a huge shock and end it on "We had landed...IN HELL" like The Twilight Zone would have. Rather, they continued on after the revelation and ended the story on a much more subdued note.

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[interrobamf.insanejournal.com]

Love Hitler, get out of Hell?

[silverzeo.insanejournal.com]

Turning the other check?

[icon_uk.insanejournal.com]

I keep meaning to ask, why is your cat doing a Jem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmYU4CeuZQ0) impression?

[interrobamf.insanejournal.com]

No clue. I found the image randomly on 2chan when I took a cursory look at it.

[ladydouji.insanejournal.com]

It's Kitty wigs! (http://kittywigs.com/wigindex.html) (pretty sure it's a joke product)

[interrobamf.insanejournal.com]

...I love you.

[icon_uk.insanejournal.com]

Hitler on Venus? Pah, ridiculous, everyone knows that the Nazi's went to the Moon! (http://www.ironsky.net/site/)

[cyberghostface.insanejournal.com]

I accidentally deleted Bluefall's comment when trying to delete mine so I could repost it. Sorry, Bluefall.

Basically they asked "How can you die if you're already in Hell?" and my response was, "The line about the souls "endlessly victimizing one another" indicates that it's probably a loop of sorts."

[seriousfic.insanejournal.com]

Obviously, it's hard to discuss when hell is a physical place that you can go to, but there is precedent. Purgatory, Buddhist beliefs about reincarnation... Think of it this way. By letting go of negative emotions, the protagonist is able to ascend to a higher plane.

[stig.insanejournal.com]

In Judaism, isn't hell only a temporary destination for the cleansing of souls before they go to heaven?

[fredneil.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)]

Usually, yes. Sometimes someone leads a life that's so bad they don't go to heaven, but those people completely stop existing, rather than spending all eternity being tortured.

That's one school of thought, anyway. As with just about everything in Judaism, the nature of heaven and hell depends on who you ask.

[stig.insanejournal.com]

Certainly it's a nicer, more peaceful idea than the alternatives provided by most sects of christianity.

[interrobamf.insanejournal.com]

It's called "Gehenna", to be specific, and people spend up to a year in it.

Judaism really does have a lot nicer afterlife than Christianity, overall.

[stig.insanejournal.com]

It would appear that the main character only escaped hell because he was Jewish and had been taught that he would.

[(Anonymous)]

The astronauts aren't dead initially- they're still in contact with HQ, after all. Think of it like Orpheus journeying through the Underworld- he's physically walked to the land of the dead, but he isn't dead himself. Just passing through.

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

So was the catalyst for Skunk (what a name!) leaving Hell the fact that he forgave Hitler, then was stabbed by him, or just that he forgave Hitler? If it's the latter, then hugging him was not the smartest thing in the world to do - he should've known that Adolf wouldn't take kindly to being hugged. I'm just wondering if the situation was 'having entered, you'll never get out of Hell alive', or whether it was 'forgive = free pass out, alive and well', and which one Skunk was counting on.
Also, it begs the question - if Hell is Venus, then which planet is Heaven? Saturn? Jupiter? Pluto?

[arilou_skiff.insanejournal.com]

Mars, obviously, though that carries unfortunate implications of it's own...

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

How is it obvious? Mars is named after the god of war - hardly an appropriate planet for heaven. I would have thought that Saturn would have been a better fit - it is, after all, largely made of gas. Gas = clouds, clouds = heaven.

[arilou_skiff.insanejournal.com]

Because Mars is the opposite of Venus obviously.

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

Again, your version of 'obvious' and mine differ when it comes to this. Do you mean mythologically or scientifically? I'm familiar with Ares and Aphrodite and their relationship, but I'm not sure how (or whether) it differs from that of their Roman counterparts. As for scientifically, I am a scientific dum-dum.

[cainofdreaming.insanejournal.com]

I think they're just generically considered opposites. You know, men are from Mars and women from Venus and such. Pop/folk culture more than anything from any particular mythology.

At least that's how I've seen it come up. Can't speak for my western neighbor.

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

Ah, I see. Well, I think the point of that book was simply to say that behaviorally speaking, men and women often act like they're from different planets - not that the planets themselves are direct opposites.
No, I'm sorry, I'm still going with Saturn. Granted, it wouldn't be a particularly nice place to live, given that it has something like 25 times the Earth's gravity (and maybe more than that - I'm just going by memory), but name me a cloudier planet. Anyway, none of the other planets in our solar system would be nice places to live - that's why we don't live there. (Well, that and our current rate of technology, but if science had revealed Mars to be a tropical paradise, you just know we'd have landed on it by now. There'd probably be resorts set up by this time. 'Come to Mars, the greatest vacation spot off Earth!')

[petalsinthewind.insanejournal.com]

Astrologically, Mars and Venus could be considered to be more opposite, as conflict and harmony.  (Like Jupiter is expansive and creative while Saturn is restrictive and traditionalist.)

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

I'll accede to your knowledge of Astrology, but if that's the case, then Hell's on the wrong planet, isn't it? Surely a planet of conflict would be much more appropriate for it.

[marsdejahthoris.insanejournal.com]

There's a short story titled "Mars is Heaven," but I don't think that's the reference you were going for...

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

[proteus_lives.insanejournal.com]

We must all be on the watch out for Hitler!

[cmdr_zoom.insanejournal.com]

"Why should I help you? You're HITLER!"
"Noo! Eva Braun, help me! ... AUUUUGH!"

"Eh, saw it comin'."

[arilou_skiff.insanejournal.com]

"You're not in Heaven OR Hell! You're ON AN AIRPLANE!"

[thehefner.insanejournal.com]

It turns out it's man!