More First Wave: Justice Inc., The Spirit, Black Canary, Rima the Jungle Girl

[manofbats.insanejournal.com]

This was posted over at the Source.

Comments

[icon_uk.insanejournal.com]

Lovely art to one side, I have to say that Rima's nose chain is possibly the least sensible, most instantly-eye-watering, super-heroic accessory I've ever seen!

[thandrak.insanejournal.com]

Especially in a jungle. Stuff catches on you!

[mullon.insanejournal.com]

Fuck yeah The Spirit!

[darkknightjrk.insanejournal.com]

My thoughts exactly. :D

[jamspread.insanejournal.com]

"Sherwood Florist"

*facepalm*

[manofbats.insanejournal.com]

What?

[sailorlibra.insanejournal.com]

Actually, I have to say that the Black Canary thing is the first and only thing I've found awesome about First Wave. And even that is more of a potential awesomeness, as I'm not really fond of Azzarello and don't really see him writing asian Dinah as cool as she could be.

Also, what the hell is up with Dinah's mask? It looks like her mascara exploded.

[manofbats.insanejournal.com]

I think it's just make-up, not a mask.

[sherkahn.insanejournal.com]

Absolutely loving the art. Really captures a lot of the masterpieces of yesteryear. All the subtleties.

... Ebony White as a "brash girl."

[box_in_the_box.insanejournal.com]

This will either be awesome, or awesomely bad.

I guess, as a straight white guy myself, I've learned to be leery of the way guys like me write black women, which tend to have less to do with writing non-stereotypical characters, and more to do with White Authors Working Out Their Issues With Black People On The Printed Page.

Re: ... Ebony White as a "brash girl."

[kenn_el.insanejournal.com]

I'm sure there was a point where Rima was "Rhyma, the Rapping Jungle Girl"....

[thebigapricot.insanejournal.com]

Oh goodie, they redesigned Canary and gave her an inappropriately stomach baring costume. Thanks DC!

[manofbats.insanejournal.com]

First, it's an AU story. Second, it's appropriate within the context of the story.

[retro_nouveau.insanejournal.com]

Looking more and more cool. Retro. Noir potential. Does it have a designation as one of the 52?

Rima = Kida - pierced nose?

[manofbats.insanejournal.com]

They're calling it the "First Wave world" but like some other Earths introduced after 52 that aren't a part of the original 52, it doesn't have an official designation yet.

[kamino_neko.insanejournal.com]

Canary looks good...from the waist up.

The shorts don't work.

But the makeup smudge in lieu of a mask is awesome.

[kenn_el.insanejournal.com]

It's what "Smallville's" Canary does.

[menagerie.insanejournal.com]

I don't have much nostalgia for the Golden Age, but I rather like the art so far and the reimagining of Golden Age Black Canary is interesting.

[kagome654.insanejournal.com]

This could be potentially disastrous (the sassy black woman thing has me a little wary, same with the rationale behind Canary's ethnicity), but yeah...cautiously optimistic.

Arrgh, typos

[dr_hermes.insanejournal.com]

He's got a couple things wrong about the Avenger. Benson didn't have pitch-black eyes. Every story mentions how light grey, almost colorless his irises were. And it wasn't just that he was a master of disguise but that the flesh of his face was malleable and could be shaped like putty. This is such a vivid and distinctive trait that it's funny it would be passed up.

Still, none of this is the "real" Doc Savage, Avenger, Spirit, Rima or Black Canary. It's just still another take on the characters, and worth giving a shot to see how things develop.

[manofbats.insanejournal.com]

I think the changes to the Avenger are intentional because I think the point of this world is to have pulp style heroes without powers.

[tacobob.insanejournal.com]

When did DC regain the rights for the Spirit?

[kamino_neko.insanejournal.com]

Where exactly did you get the idea that they'd lost them?

The solicit for the last issue of the Spirit ongoing make an oblique reference to First Wave ('but stay tuned for a radical reinvention that will leave you breathless!'), so it's pretty clear there was no loss of rights involved in ending the series.

Either the sales tanked (and I can believe it - I dropped it early in Evanier and Argones run), or they dropped enough that DC thought it was worth keeping only the First Wave version around.

[scottyquick.insanejournal.com]

"unnaturally white hair"
"never speaks"
"the siren of any story she's involved in"*
"she's not a main character"

ARGH.

* admittedly, this has more to do with in my home town, 'siren' was a synonym for 'stripper'.

[dr_hermes.insanejournal.com]

It's ironic, also, because in the 1904 book GREEN MANSIONS, Rima is specifically a member of a lost tribe of white people living in the jungle. Audrey Hepburn played her in an interesting film.

[nezchan.insanejournal.com]

Turn Ebony into a sassy black woman...


Turn...Ebony...into a sassy black woman...

...

Eh, can't be worse than the actual movie was.

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

I knew a girl in college named Ebony. She was black and, well, not exactly sassy, but she had spunk. I've never met a male Ebony, I'll say that - I'm pretty sure it's usually a girl's name.

[lieut_kettch.insanejournal.com]

I wonder if Dinah will have her barely-remembered Golden Age power-- the ability to communicate with birds.

I hope this chronicles how she meets up with Larry Lance.

[kusonaga.insanejournal.com]

That would be her daddy.

[auggie18.insanejournal.com]

Okay. Just gotta get this out there. I totally thought that Canary just had some weird-ass shadowplay going on. Also, I think that instead of a sonic scream, this version should have an 'iron belly'. She's like Luke Cage, except the only unbreakable part of her is her stomach.

Spirit, yay! And Darwin Cook's Ebony White was awesome.

[jelly_ace.insanejournal.com]

So old-world means Middle Eastern, Korean, or Indian as opposed to, I dunno, Chinese, Irish, and Polish?

[darkblade.insanejournal.com]

Well the concept of an Irish Black Canary was seen in All Star Batman and Robin. No one wants to remember that.

[proteus_lives.insanejournal.com]

The art looks bad-ass.

[fredneil.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)]

Two things:
1. I think Black Canary's and Rima's waists look painful.

2. I don't think the person who wrote the Spirit blurb knows what "dodgy" means.

[manofbats.insanejournal.com]

Seems like a proper use of the word.

[toasty_fresh.insanejournal.com]

I am feeling so much secondhand embarrassment for Dinah's outfit, there.

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

Is there any chance of posting a link to those images? I ask because the second one is all stretched-out for me, and I'd really like to see it.

[aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com]

They can be found here (http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2009/11/09/how-about-some-more-rags-morales%E2%80%99-sketches-from-first-wave/).

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

Looking good so far. I know practically nothing about Rima and the Avenger, so I won't be offended by any changes made there, the Spirit looks great, and an Asian Black Canary is an intriguing concept. I'm looking forward to this!