You don't #$%^ with Leonard Samson

[terrykun]

To hell with this "Leonard's not here" evil alter-ego bullshit for War of the Hulks. This right here... THIS is my Doc Samson. (Well, this and his own mini, which I'll dig up later.)








 

Comments

[darkblade]

Oh yeah I forgot Robbie was getting better befre he was mindwiped...shit.

[oldmanrain]

Oh yeah, he's gone crazy now hasn't he? Well that's just great.
Has Loeb even given an explanation why? Please say it's not gamma radiation
(Plus, how have I only noticed now what a badass name he has?)

[terrykun]

It's been vaguely implied that MODOK and/or Ross gamma-brainwashed him.

[crinos]

So... All Gamma folk have teh rage now?

I thought that was just Hulk's thing, and only because of Banner's effed up childhood.

Ah well, anything to make powersets more cookie cutter I suppose.

[vanillagarlic.com]

1) I like this, seeing these two therapists beat the snot out of each other cracks me up.

2) I'm commenting with an open ID, how do I get a pass code so I can create a dreamwidth account as I would prefer not to shell out some cash for this?

[yaseen101]

Waitaminute is that Karla in the jail cell and the one he is fighting later? I'm assuming that this is sometime before Dark Reign right?

[terrykun]

Bluestreak is the one in the jail cell, I think. It's not Karla though.

This is before Dark Reign and Secret Invasion, post-CW.

[victory_or_death]

IIRC, to date the Hulk is one of the few "gamma irradiation" characters whose strength increases with his rage/anger. The rest have superhuman strength but do not fluctuate with emotional levels.

The fact that "everybody has the rage" is something new, I believe - although apparently the Doc has stated his theory before that, "gamma mutation is largely determined by the subject's deepest sense of self". (source: wikipedia)

*shrugs* I dunno.

And we're supposed to feel sorry for Samson?

[roguefankc]

Ever since Doc Samson was shown to be involved with sending Bruce into space, I can't exactly say I feel sorry for him and how he now has a dark personality and not in full control thanks to MODOK.

So he now has a evil half of his psyche and is now declared as a wanted man for his attack on the President? Hey Samson, guess what? Bruce goes through the same thing as the Hulk. So why should any sympathy be shown to him?

[yaseen101]

So in the first one it is Blue Streak and in the second set of scans, Doc is fighting Karla, right?

[ian_karkull]

Yeah, the second woman is Karla (as if you coulnd't tell from the kick in the nads..). This is directly prior to Secret Invasion, when most of the Dark Avengers were still the Thunderbolts.

Warren Ellis presents

[stubbleupdate]

The Gamma Enhanced Tallywhacker

[halloweenjack]

Huh. I've gone back and forth about whether I want to invest in/read the Ellis Thunderbolts, but I really liked this bit.

[yaseen101]

Actually, it's because the two women in the two scans look really alike, that's why I got confused because the woman in the second scan's blaster's has the same look and design as Karla's but the woman in the first scan is using psychic powers which is something I never knew Karla could do and one of the tags has Karla Sofen on it.

[chrysicat]

Let me see if I have any available...I'm on a paid account myself...

[grazzt]

This is extremely timely, seeing as there's a serial groin kicker in the news up here.

[ian_karkull]

I was just making a glib remark about Karla's hands on (or heels on, as it were) approach, Deodato women are indeed indistinguishable.

[wizardru]

This particular run was Ellis doing some great stuff. His crazy Norman was great and Doc Samson comes off great here (as he does throughout this arc).

Then Andy Diggle basically invalidated all this on his subsequent run.

[box_in_the_box]

Yeah, which is why I dislike both the "we all have rage" thing and the Geoff Johns attempt to retcon She-Hulk as transforming because of fear.

Bruce becomes the Hulk when he's angry because he repressed his rage. Jen becomes She-Hulk when she wants to have fun because she repressed her sensuality. And the Leader ... hmmm.

[terrykun]

The Leader was tired of always finding hats that fit.

[box_in_the_box]

Heh. I know nothing about the Leader's pre-Gamma life, but maybe he was raised by oppressively incurious parents who forced him to repress his natural curiosity.

[yaseen101]

Yeah, but I like the way he draws Karla/Moonstone.

[vanillagarlic.com]

Thanks so much!

[icon_uk]

Which is why, when the Leader detonated a Gamma Bomb in a town he'd sealed into a force bubble, the very few survivors all got different powers; Hotshot, Jailbait, Ogress, Soul Man and Omnibus

[icon_uk]

Worry not, Karla has no psychic abilities. She can fly, phase, and throw energy blasts.

[yaseen101]

Thnks.

[darkblade]

You haver serial groin kickers? That is the most absurdly awesome serial crime ever.

[proteus_lives]

Samson's beatdown of Moonstone is very awesome and deserved.

[fin-fang-foom.livejournal.com]

The Leader's comes either from a feeling of self-importance (which would explain his similarities with Omnibus), and/or due to a desire to be smarter than his brother, Philip (Madman).

[jlbarnett]

in the cartoon he was just a janitor as far as I remember. The problem with your theory on Jen is that at first she was like Bruce, and then when her current nature was out there she never became She-Hulk. She always was She-Hulk.

I can easily buy all of them having rage issues, though I think whatever causes the transformation is just whatever really spikes the adrenaline in the person changing.

[box_in_the_box]

The problem with your theory on Jen is that at first she was like Bruce, and then when her current nature was out there she never became She-Hulk. She always was She-Hulk.

Because you don't need to repress your "Let's have fun!" impulses nearly as much as you do your "Urge to kill ... rising!" impulses. If your strongest emotions are the desire to pound the shit out of people, you NEED to repress those, but if your strongest emotions are simply the desire to have a good time, a lot less repression is required. Bruce's urges made him anti-social, while Jen's made her hyper-social.

[ar_feiniel]

Samson was cool in Thunderbolts. I also liked the earlier bit with him in this arc where he imagined beating the shit out of Norman and Karla.

[x5455]

my only exposure to Doc Samson has been his therapy sessions in the most recent X-Factor series, and the scans in this community, so I don't know a lot about the character, but I have to say that I kinda stan for him now. Specially since it's ALL gamma-enchanced... :D

[bruinsfan]

If the scans are to be believed, being a psychiatrist grants one psychic abilities. (We'll leave aside the issue of Sampson labeling himself one of the world's best, as most of his appearances in a professional capacity that I've seen would give grounds for ethics complaints to the ABPN and AMA.)