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Date: 2009-11-22 04:12 am (UTC)
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Hey, the shipping doesn't have to get in the way here! Bear in mind, I'm approaching this as canon as I can, which means we have to rework or completely lose aspects of the original Dostoevsky. I mean, it seems rather evident that we may have to pretty well completely change everything about Mrs. Khokhlakov and Lise. I mean, Aunt Harriet is perfect for the character as she is, but she's not a regular figure, and dang it, we need Babs and Cass in there! Although, hmm, Kate and Bette Kane... very nice potential there!

It'd be impossible to cut Damian off from the family, so his inclusion would majorly shake up the adaptation no matter what. I bet there's a way to have him be the Rakitan figure and still figure as part of the family. It'd just have to be one of the bigger liberties to take from the source material.

I haven't read the Dixon storyline in question, and I barely remember Richard Dragon from his stuff in THE QUESTION, but does he work as well as a moral guide for Dick as Clark does (or would as a Zosima figure)?

If it's cool with you, I'd like to link this whole thing to my LJ! I've been having a blast!

Date: 2009-11-22 05:44 am (UTC)
kingrockwell: cool times; a man in a black shirt places a blue fedora on his head while throwing a jacket over his shoulder. (Vic Sage)
From: [personal profile] kingrockwell
The way I see it, working directly from continuity will only get in the way. It'd stay as close as possible, but will necessarily have to veer from both the DCU and Dostoevsky at points.
Maybe we could genderswap a few characters to work Babs and Cass in? There are still some supporting cast members unfilled, and the gender balance between the two stories is pretty varied.
I can't really think who might be close enough to Jason to work as Perkhotin, either, but it might be funny if the kids were the Titans or something.

There really isn't much about his training Dick in Dixon's Richard Dragon than just a splash page in #7 that included some of his students over the years (though Dick guests in the second issue and the impression that's left there is Richard only indirectly trained him by training Bruce). I say that series is best left forgotten because it doesn't treat Richard quite the way he'd always been established, as a general moral guide, teacher, and guru on the spiritual side of the martial arts. It was more the fighting that the Batfamily members who've learned under him took away, but his role as a moral and spiritual guide is prominent in nearly every appearance he's made post-Crisis (teaching Vic in The Question, teaching Babs in Batman Chronicles #5, teaching Helena in Huntress: Cry For Blood, and Renee in 52).

Making him Zosima also gives me an excuse to cast an assistant/caretaker in a conspicuous blue fedora for him (i'm sure Zosima had someone other than Alyosha helping him in that capacity, i'd have to re-read it, though i'm sure they were prolly never named). It also opens the option of making Father Ferapont into Lady Shiva, stretch as that may be.

Link away!

Date: 2009-11-22 06:59 am (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
Okay, so you'd approach it from Dostoevsky first and the Bat-characters second. How in-canon would this be? Would it be its own continuity? An Elseworlds? Would it even be modern setting?

My interest with this would be to stay true to the Bat-characters, which would itself override any conflicts the story might have with the original. As such, when it comes to getting more of the Bat-characters to fill out the roles, I'd absolutely be fine with some genderswapping!

At this point, I fear we're delving into territory that I frankly don't even remember about the book. I'm definitely gonna try and give the book a reread, or at least reread crucial chapters since it'd take me a couple months at least to get through it, and I have too much else to do! Would that the recent translation would be available on audiobook, so I could listen to it while commuting!

I'm still torn on which Zosima to go for, but the prospect of bringing the Question into this definitely wins your argument major points, I'll grant you.

Date: 2009-11-22 02:29 pm (UTC)
kingrockwell: cool times; a man in a black shirt places a blue fedora on his head while throwing a jacket over his shoulder. (Babs Gordon)
From: [personal profile] kingrockwell
Hmm, it seems like the way I've been thinking has tried to stick plot-wise with Dostoevsky and character-wise with Batman, though I don't even know how I expect that to work. I guess I'm looking for the best fit with minimal changes, but ready to make what changes necessary.

I'd always imagined it as an Elseworlds, but putting it in proper continuity, or at least make it a non-continuity story based in the regular setting, might be interesting. Whether it would even be a proper adaptation or a loosely based story, I'm not quite sure of anymore.

One thing I miss about taking the bus to work is that I no longer have as much time to read books.

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