box_in_the_box: (K-Box cartoon)Shooting You with My Smile ([personal profile] box_in_the_box) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2009-11-23 02:19 am UTC
Entry tags:char: superman/clark kent, genre: public service announcement, publisher: dc comics
I look forward to seeing the perfect storm of wank calm and rational debate that will ensue in the comments, between competing factions of both superhero comics fans and public policy ideologues.

Superman supports health care and welfare!



From back in the day when Superman used his moral force to say we should do this because it's the right thing to do for our neighbors, never mind if it cost us some tax dollars.

Of course, today he'd be attacked for his position because, after all, he's an illegal immigrant.

And like so many other illegals, we just want him to clean up our messes and do the jobs we can't do for ourselves for non-existent pay, but that doesn't mean we have to acknowledge when he might have a point.

But I could be mistaken. Is there someone out there who can explain why Superman is wrong?

(Hat tip to Kevin H and Wesley Osam.)
This was originally posted online near the end of August, but I don't recall seeing it on this comm, so I thought I'd share it with you all.

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[personal profile] twigcollins
2009-11-23 04:43 pm UTC (link)
The Fall of Rome is so interesting, as it just sort of, kept falling. Falling out of the Empire tree and hitting every branch on the way down.

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halialkers: (Kanari H'vat H'vorxixnon)


[personal profile] halialkers
2009-11-23 04:46 pm UTC (link)
Well, not quite. Its eastern portion went through two phases of monotheism, one Christian, one Muslim to the degree you could say that the Roman Empire was forcibly dismembered at the Treaty of Lausanne. And arguably under the Ottomans the Roman Empire reached heights it never did under the Christian phase.

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[personal profile] twigcollins
2009-11-23 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but I've heard a lot of people discuss "The Fall Of Rome" as if it was this one-time event that just happened one day. Usually because they have an agenda as to Why The United States Rome Fell, and it's more convenient for them that way.

The detailed history is much more interesting.

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halialkers: (Kanari H'vat H'vorxixnon)


[personal profile] halialkers
2009-11-23 05:02 pm UTC (link)
Well, even with the fall of the Western Roman empire you can date it from the Battle of Adrianople, from Alaric's sacking of Rome, or even at the absolute latest from the Roman Emperor Justinian sacking Italy to Hell and gone.

And funny you should say that, the motivation for Gibbons' Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire was fear that the British Empire itself was headed to a decline and fall. Now, in hindsight that seems ludicrous, but the book itself was published after the 13 Atlantic colonies had broken away so that didn't seem so far-fetched at the time.

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khamelea: (DMetal, Uranium)


[personal profile] khamelea
2009-11-23 09:59 pm UTC (link)
The British Empire did kind of fall, eventually. No?

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halialkers: (Kanari H'vat H'vorxixnon)


[personal profile] halialkers
2009-11-24 02:13 am UTC (link)
Depends on how you view the Commonwealth of Nations (which conveniently excluded all the non-white majority states).

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