All the King's horses...
Nov. 25th, 2009 10:05 pm
Four scans from Invincible Iron Man #20.
So Tony has prepared a lengthy message for the assembled heroes:

He goes on to explain that he's eradicated essentially the whole legacy of the Iron Man tech between the virus and Stane's earlier wrecking of Stark Industries, so if he doesn't survive he'll at least have done that.

He pops back in again briefly to say that Osborn's operation will eventually fall apart, then also that they should expect heavy casualties whenever the time comes to take him down. It's a realistically rambling possibly-final-message.
Anyhoo, the assembled heroes marvel briefly at his astonishingly complicated plan.


I assume you mean in a cosmic sense, Pep, because I'm sure Tony would like all those people to come back too (though it feels a bit weird for her to be talking about "Steve" and "Bill"; she didn't know either of them, so far as I know).
Either way, the answer is:
$585,133,287 cumulative worldwide box office.

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Date: 2009-11-26 03:36 am (UTC)What a douche bag.
Whatever. Anyone want a copy of a used Iron Man DVD? I forget how to use it.
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Date: 2009-11-26 11:22 pm (UTC)The solution is simple: always keep in mind that the Movieverse is AU of the Comicverse, so that you can hate comic!Tony while still liking movie!Tony. It works for me, I want comic!Tony to die painfully yet I cheered when movie!Tony was saved ^_^
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Date: 2009-11-26 03:46 am (UTC)And if he knows Osborne's inevitably going to melt down, why do they need him for anything?
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Date: 2009-11-26 04:16 am (UTC)Still, that's a really well written scene and the art is amazing as usual. Fraction is really writing the hell out of this series.
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Date: 2009-11-26 04:30 am (UTC)When Tony Starks work was used to harm others, he declared war on the world, even going as far as to destroy US government equipment. Now, after all this, whats Tony's solution for destroying lives again? Some lame slow acting brain dissolve. To hell with that Tony. Either put a blasting cap in your ears or grow some balls and get out and fix it like you used to do. You stopped being a Superhero the minute you stopped WORKING for the good and expected it to come to you.
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Date: 2009-11-26 07:54 am (UTC)I'd just like to say that even though I do not understand you or your people or anything about your no doubt non-Euclidean civilization, I hope we may co-exist peacefully. I will even cede to you the pages of Iron Man that you may see your strange alien tastes gratified. Just, uh, stay away from the comics I like. D:
the art is amazing?
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Date: 2009-11-26 04:23 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-11-26 04:31 am (UTC)To be fair Tony got WRITER jacked big time, he was handed to so many different writers during civil war and everyone but his own series decided to portray him as the Iron Dick. This is the problem with crossovers, this is the problem with transient writing teams, it fucks with characterization bad.
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Date: 2009-11-26 06:14 am (UTC)I really don't like the way he seems to be making 'bringing him back' synonymous with 'forgiving him'. Yeah, no.
I have some sympathy for Pepper, it's not long since her husband was in the same place. And Tony didn't warn her. He never does.
I like Tony. D: It's a lot of work though.
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Date: 2009-11-26 08:12 am (UTC)In his own book, when he wasn't playing out the Upper Class Twit trope, he was constantly having to deal with his own tech going rogue or being stolen and his solution to said clusterfuck was to create an even bigger one. He's :"living" proof of the old gamer's maxim that knowledge and wisdom are separate stats..
Point blank: Tony Stark is a self-righteous dick who can't leave bad enough alone.
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Date: 2009-11-26 08:05 am (UTC)That is irondickery, Tony.
I can understand why people say that he's taking his friends on a guilt trip, but not really. He's offering them a choice. Knowing me, I'd tell him to take a long walk off a short pier, but that is how I roll. I'm no superhero.
Also, I can understand why Pepper felt the way she did. Out of everyone, why would Tony come back. You see, unlike everyone, Tony plans, and plans, and then thinks on the fly. But Pepper, you
No lie, I'd (probably) buy the comic if the art wasn't so bloody mediocre though. Larroca's lack of pride in his work offends me on such a visceral level, I just can't care anymore.
Like, I'm just pretty agnostic re: the comic. It's going to be six issues of navel gazing, then people standing outside Tony's navel gazing, and he comes back in time for the siege.
Okay, Fraction and Larroca. Okay.
The book has an Einser, so what do I know?
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Date: 2009-11-26 08:12 am (UTC)They don't, and I hope they realise that. They're heroes, and Don's a doctor; they have to bring him back. They don't have to forgive him, though. He's trying to force their hands by saying they need Iron Man, and that they can't bring him back without moving on from all the shit he did.
He's been able to sincerely apologize for other crap he did. And that was the Tony I liked, the one who faced up to his cock-ups and told the people he loved that he'd understand if they couldn't forgive him. He never tried to force forgiveness on people, and he felt genuinely grateful when they gave it to him.
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Date: 2009-11-26 10:26 am (UTC)They should bring him back so Steve and Thor can spend a month curb-stomping his ass.
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Date: 2009-11-26 10:32 am (UTC)I LOLed. Cheers, my good man.
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Date: 2009-11-27 01:59 pm (UTC)Excuse me, I need to go find Fraction and hit him with a stick until such time as he understands how to write a redemption arc (hint: not like this). I may be some time.
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Date: 2009-11-28 02:54 am (UTC)Whoever compared this to a "shrinkwrap" EULA is spot on.
I hope someone tells Tony that bringing him back does not constitute, or require, agreeing to his terms.