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Date: 2009-11-26 11:56 am (UTC)Yay also for that dick being smacked in the face.
Seriously, when the Joker thinks that your eviiiiillll behaviour is annoying, you should get the hint and tone it down a notch.
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Date: 2009-11-26 12:58 pm (UTC)I thought he bought it during Salvation Run.
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Date: 2009-11-26 03:07 pm (UTC)And yay! Mr. T taking care of business!
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Date: 2009-11-27 01:51 pm (UTC)I was thinking of Lady Lunar.
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Date: 2009-11-26 03:33 pm (UTC)....
:hangs head: I'm so ashamed.
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Date: 2009-11-26 05:16 pm (UTC)*gets shotgun*
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Date: 2009-11-26 09:25 pm (UTC)(I know, it's Karne, but the spelling is similar to "carne" - meat in Spanish...)
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Date: 2009-11-27 12:06 pm (UTC)This whole thing is about as surprising as the date of Christmas.
Well, that's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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Date: 2009-11-27 07:37 pm (UTC)You mean people who read spoilers knew it was coming? Shocker.
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Date: 2009-11-28 08:18 pm (UTC)No Mr. Terrific in sight.
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Date: 2009-11-29 03:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-11-30 12:04 am (UTC)Terrific started on his way back to the land of the living last issue, though.
Both covers went up roughly around the time this storyline started, so you could simply guess it's conclusion by idly browsing the Previews catalog and that is most certainly neither a spoiler nor a huge amount of effort.
And this is where you lose me. The Previews are advanced solicitations for issues coming out several issues after whatever's currently on the stands. Of course there's going to be the possibility of spoilers! Reading them is the equivalent of reading the back cover of a later novel in a series. Of course there's the risk that it'll spoil developments from earlier books in the series.
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Date: 2009-11-30 03:47 pm (UTC)I don't consider advanced solicitations spoilers because the sequential nature of comic books practically forces you to browse through Previews in advance, otherwise nobody would know what will come out or not and what to get when the time comes. Nobody's is going to go to the comic book shop every Wednesday on a whim and look through all of the new releases willy-nilly, without any idea what to expect.
Of course there is always the possiblity that a cover might spoil a particular plot point in advance, but usually solicitations are kept purposefully vague and hyperbolic, or covers are simply group shots or blacked out altogether, so that they don't spoil major plot points. Likewise, the back cover of a book will give you only the barest summary of the plot within. No Sherlock Holmes novel will say "The Butler did it" in capital letters on it's back, for isntance.
"Reading spoilers" constitutes a much bigger effort for me. Someone who reads spoilers does so precisely because (s)he wants to be spoiled on the story in question, someone who looks at Previews just wants to know if that particular issue even comes out, an interest all comic book readers share.
A spoiler gives up much more information than the covers ever do and has to be actively sought out, by downloading advanced copies or coming here, for example. Pretty much every comic book reader can be expected to flip through a previews catalog, but not every comic book reader will also be a member of scans daily or a similar message board.
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Date: 2009-11-30 10:02 pm (UTC)Yes, because people don't read the interior of a comic until after they've seen the cover. And it's in the interior that he starts coming back. What's the problem here?
I'm making a distinction between solicitations and advanced solicitations. Reading the solicit for issue 14 when you've read up to 13 isn't a potential spoiler. Reading the solicit for issue 17 when you've read up to 13 is. I said that the back cover of a novel can spoil the contents of earlier novels in the series, not the same novel it's serving as the back cover for. It's the same principle here.
Retailers have to read Previews because their distribution system is such that they have to order that far in advance. That's why Previews exists at all. Non-retailers don't have to. Needing to know what's coming out in a given week (and it's not like the Previews catalog always gives accurate info on that, since ship dates can change and books get delayed) is different from needing to know what's coming out in three months' time.
There are plenty of fans who don't seek out the latter information, just like there are plenty of TV viewers who don't know anything about the third episode after the latest one or novel readers who don't know anything about the third book after the latest one in the series -- or whether there even will be a third book after the latest one.
That's why I do consider solicits to be spoiler, albeit usually of the mild variety. I'm with Brian K. Vaughan on this one. Some fans had to him that the advanced solicits for Y The Last Man gave away an important development. His response: Anyone who seeks out advanced solicitations has no right to complain about being spoiled.
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Date: 2009-11-29 06:32 am (UTC)The team was inept enough to recruit people at first glance with apparently no work to look into the person.
I don't want to read a comic where Magog is right.
I'll give All Stars #1 a shot but I'm dropping the JSA series.