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scans_dailyPreview for two X-titles at Newsarama here, including New Mutant #9 (Which we've seen unlettered pages for before). (The other preview is Nation X, and it's PAD penned, so is a no-no here)
Just in case though - Spoilers under the cut
Doug and Warlock are being checked out post Necrosha and it would appear that Doug has managed to recover completely from being A) dead and B) a Necroshan zombie thing.
Doug is fine, but Warlock is operating at low power and will take a long time to regenerate since he appears to have switched to a vegan diet... or the T-O equivalent thereof.
Danger is fascinated by Warlock, but as Doug quickly notices....
Doug appears to have aged whilst he was dead since he was only about 16 then and seems older here. He's a cute li'l dickens just the same though.
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title: new mutants
char: cyclops/scott summers
char: cypher/doug ramsey
char: white queen/emma frost
char: warlock
creator: zeb wells
creator: paul davidson
Just in case though - Spoilers under the cut
Doug and Warlock are being checked out post Necrosha and it would appear that Doug has managed to recover completely from being A) dead and B) a Necroshan zombie thing.
Doug is fine, but Warlock is operating at low power and will take a long time to regenerate since he appears to have switched to a vegan diet... or the T-O equivalent thereof.
Danger is fascinated by Warlock, but as Doug quickly notices....
Doug appears to have aged whilst he was dead since he was only about 16 then and seems older here. He's a cute li'l dickens just the same though.
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title: new mutants
char: cyclops/scott summers
char: cypher/doug ramsey
char: white queen/emma frost
char: warlock
creator: zeb wells
creator: paul davidson
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Date: 2010-01-02 01:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-02 01:59 am (UTC)And Franklin just had a birthday, which I'm sure will have just as much of an impact on his age as OYL did on all the DCU kid heroes, eg, none whatsoever.
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Date: 2010-01-02 03:00 am (UTC)And you know they didn't seed their Magik file, those jerks.
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Date: 2010-01-02 03:26 pm (UTC)...Okay, maybe you would.
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Date: 2010-01-02 03:57 pm (UTC)Yeah, I'm totally imagining Forge going all "Talk binary to me..."
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Date: 2010-01-02 02:18 am (UTC)For some reason that amuses me.
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Date: 2010-01-02 02:39 am (UTC)It used to be that everyone was all LANGUAGE POWERS PFFT WHAT GOOD ARE THOSE, but now, in the information age, Doug's language powers basically give him God Mode abilities over everyone else, and that smug smirk on his face says that he knows it.
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Date: 2010-01-02 02:47 am (UTC)http://instantrimshot.com/
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Date: 2010-01-02 05:11 am (UTC)Too bad Prodigy is de-powered.
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Date: 2010-01-02 07:54 pm (UTC)Question
Date: 2010-01-02 07:57 am (UTC)Because then can't it be used as reading an attacker's moves during hand-to-hand combat and being able to counter with exactly the required attack you need? I'm not sure if this was alluded to before in the past or not.
If that's the case, then wow, you're right. Language powers CAN be God-like.
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Date: 2010-01-02 08:01 am (UTC)Doug just became the next Taskmaster.
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Date: 2010-01-02 09:48 am (UTC)Doug's power is passive observation, not reaction, so is closer to this guys.
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Date: 2010-01-02 09:46 am (UTC)And as I've said before, just because you can READ body language doesn't mean you're in a position to do anything about it. Doug was never that skilled, or eager, a combatant, and I don't think I want to see him become one.
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Date: 2010-01-02 08:10 pm (UTC)Even now that's he's been freed of the T/O infection I doubt that Wells will stop using him as an uber martial artist.
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Date: 2010-01-03 04:39 pm (UTC)His OHOTMU entry goes to some lengths to point out that whilst fit, Doug hasn't had the same combat training as the other NM's.
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Date: 2010-01-03 04:40 pm (UTC)Re: Question
Date: 2010-01-03 04:57 pm (UTC)I recall in a fanfic (set in a universe where Doug was eventually restored through the TO virus) where he's challenged on his decision to leave Xaviers to go to college in California. "Don't you question my commitment to Xaviers cause. I died for that cause... twice! After the second time I began to think there HAD to be a better way of doing things"
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Date: 2010-01-02 11:08 pm (UTC)Re: Question
Date: 2010-01-04 12:10 am (UTC)It would theoretically make him a great negotiator though.
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Date: 2010-01-02 07:01 pm (UTC)Dude, these are still comics we're talking about. Fans might be cumming over his return...but speaking as a fan of Oracle, Cassandra Cain, and Iron Man...handing a comic book writer those kind of cool powers is like asking Freddy Kruger for a hand job. Were I a fan of Cypher (and I'm not, sorry) I'd be much more worried about how they're going to fuck him over than anything else.
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Date: 2010-01-02 07:49 pm (UTC)Just because he knows the words,doesn't mean he knows the right thing to say.
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Date: 2010-01-02 05:15 pm (UTC)After Worlds at War, he had a black background on his S instead of yellow.
And do we really need to recount that whole Superman Red and Blue thing?
And his first issue appearance... and he early golden age outfit (with the S diamond being a triangle).
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Date: 2010-01-02 11:28 am (UTC)Davis' Warlock I like too, but it's the versatility of Warlock that makes him fun.
The only problem I have with how he's show up in the preview is his uncanny similarity to a Pepperami Animal
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Date: 2010-01-02 08:05 am (UTC)In fact, given his deceptively formidable powers, a bland appearance would be perfectly suited to them.
"Yeah, I'm the guy who doesn't have a flashy look or impressive powers ... all I can do is read your body language to tell exactly what's on your mind, and use my language abilities to hack into every database you own and completely butt-fuck every digital resource you have, and the kick your fucking ass because I can anticipate all your combat moves. I don't dress to impress because I'm already impressive enough that you should be scared shitless of me as is."
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Date: 2010-01-02 09:54 am (UTC)A notable arc is that Cable is determined to recruit Cypher and will do anything to get him to join (as he points out to Domino, X-Force are working in an old Sentinel base they can't get to work, Doug could probably get the whole thing up and running and working for them within an hour). Doug is not happy about the methods used and so, as a "friendly" warning, hacks the X-Force base and, basically breezing past Domino's complex firewalls and security, wipes all Cables records and systems clean, I mean reformatted, fresh out of the manufacturer clean. And the backups, and the back-up back-ups. It takes him something like four minutes.
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Date: 2010-01-02 03:15 am (UTC)not surprising when the writer could'nt keep up with what was hapening between Nova and the Conquest Mini serie.
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Date: 2010-01-02 09:57 am (UTC)And since Charles was out whooping it up with Liandra, it was Emma who got the New Mutants, Doug included, through the colossal "You're dead... wait I've brought you back as my slaves" mindfuck that the Beyonder did them.
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Date: 2010-01-03 01:07 am (UTC)This was long before her character change.
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Date: 2010-01-03 01:33 am (UTC)Plus, whilst she did try to make them happy, she quickly came to realise that they weren't getting any better that way, and then did the hard work of getting them through it properly.
It's been a while since I read the issues, but I thought Empath's actions were his own, Emma certainly took advantage of Magneto's distractedness, but she punished Empath for his actions too.
At the time Emma was seeking to build long term political bridges between the Hellfire Club and Xaviers out of a sense of survival, so she DID heal the NM's and didn't try to convert them to her cause, when they would have been ripe for a bit of manipulation. A while later Magma did come to join her, but that wasn't due to Emma's actions, and Emma freely admitted that some of the Hellions might fare better at Xaviers.
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Date: 2010-01-02 03:21 am (UTC)That scientist in the first pages? That's MARTY FELDMAN!
(One of the pictures actually looks like it was traced from a photo of him, and I know it's not - the resemblance is uncanny!)
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Date: 2010-01-02 05:03 am (UTC)Belasco made a soulless demon with her appearance and her memories, and then said demon stole the soul sword.
Isn't Jeffries married to Diamond Lil?
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Date: 2010-01-02 05:37 am (UTC)But then HoM ended and he decided to try to recreate her, but she wasn't as good as the real thing, so he attacked the X-Kids because during HoM Illyana hung out with them and he thought they were hiding her.
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Date: 2010-01-02 09:58 am (UTC)Pretty Old School.
Date: 2010-01-02 07:19 am (UTC)Take Doug Ramsey, for example. There's basically three camps concerning him; the small fanbase that loves him, the small fanbase that hates him, and the large amount of comic book readers who have no idea who the hell Doug Ramsey is, or why they should care about him coming back. Same with Legion and the Hellions - some people will go "Sweet!" but the other eighty-five percent will go, "who?"
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Date: 2010-01-02 09:59 am (UTC)In that case, how is that different from introducing any NEW character to a title.
How is it different?
Date: 2010-01-03 12:47 am (UTC)Some writers circumnavigate the problem by introducing obscure characters as though they were new characters, like how I feel DnA have done with most of the cosmic universe. There attitude was more like; "This is Nova. You've never heard of him, but he's awesome, and here's why" While with Zeb Wells, it was more like, "Doug's back! Isn't that awesome?"
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Date: 2010-01-03 01:05 am (UTC)Re: Pretty Old School.
Date: 2010-01-02 11:19 am (UTC)This is what happens when the X-office is populated solely by 80s fanboys. You've got them all changing Scott Summers into a completely different character, just because they desperately want him to be cool.
You've got the shoving aside of the majority of characters created since 1990, except Pixie, who they were using as a Kitty-clone.
And now you've got the resurrection of a book that only ever had, for me, marginally interesting characters. Cannonball was the only one I ever cared for, and he was also the one who made the jump to X-Man proper.
Bringing back Doug Ramsay is a terrible move, in my opinion. His one lasting legacy to the X-Men was that he died. Bringing him back completely negates his usefulness, just like it did when DC brought Jason Todd back, and like it would have been with Bucky, if Brubaker hadn't done such a tour de force job of his retcon.
So now, the only character to have stayed dead is Uncle Ben. Great, I wonder when we can expect him to return as a supervillain intent on wreaking vengeance on Aunt May for moving on. Sigh.
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Date: 2010-01-02 11:29 am (UTC)Re: Pretty Old School.
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Date: 2010-01-02 07:43 am (UTC)"Pirated Copy"
Oh, Warlock how I've missed you and Doug.
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Date: 2010-01-02 07:09 pm (UTC)If Illyana is some kind of clone, that wouldn't make her Illyana 2.0. Beast growing fur would make him Beast 2.0, Beast turning into a cat would be Beast 3.0, but McKoy has never been referred to as "Beast 2.0" because he's a different person, not an upgraded version.
Warlock needs to stop asking comic book writers for proper usage of 'net speak.
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Date: 2010-01-02 11:04 pm (UTC)oh warlock :D
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Date: 2010-01-03 03:28 am (UTC)Doug you're also an alright dude
It's so cool seeing thee guys again, might have to give this one a look!
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Date: 2010-01-05 12:40 am (UTC)But "insulting"? She's a non-mutant in a team called "The New Mutants" so it seems fair to me. At least they're acknowledging that she WAS a mutant.
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