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So, here is where it all went SO wrong. Extent merges the golden age hawks with Katar Hol/Hawkman of Thanagar. Zero hour...

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DC decided that the JSA had just gotten too old and no amount of magic pixie dust could explain how characters in their 60's and 70's could still be in action.







This is it three characters became one 2 guys and woman ( which did make you wonder what was under the Hawk-god"'s loin cloth.

I will admit tho' hawkman didn't get it worst in Zero hour. That would be Guy Gardner and that whole "Warrior" mess...

Date: 2010-01-13 11:08 pm (UTC)
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Except their ages aren't right. Old superheroes, not a problem, an interesting notion. But the JSA were in their 20's before the 1939, there's not a one of them that should be under 90 years old. I agree jay Garrick is a great character and one or two of them managing to devise a reason not to age as fast (Jay and Alan Scott are the two with the most obvious "out") but when they came up with Ian Karkull slowing down the aging of ALL of them, it just looked like a desperate lack of trust in the concept of new characters using the names.

It's one of the things that made a separate Earth-2 such a good idea, you could have the WWII heroes in JSA and All Star Squadron, and their legacy characters in Infinity Inc. and it didn't interfere with the Earth-1 heroes being the first of their world.

As I've said before it meant that, as an example, Dick Grayson went from being the first sidekick, to just another kid hero who followed in the footsteps of everyone from Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys to Dan the ruddy Dyna-Mite.

Date: 2010-01-14 12:09 am (UTC)
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I have some problems with it but one of the moments I did like in Johns' Flash: Rebirth is when Zoom tells Barry that the reason not only Jay but his wife Joan as well (maybe the happiest and longest lasting marriage in comicdom) look like they're in their 50s when they should be approaching 100 is because of the Speed Force and the reason Iris is now once again a 30-something hottie and not a senior citizen grandmother is because of the speed force. Yeah, it's comic science but at least Johns approached the issue head-on.

Of course with Alan Scott (who is said to be composed of the green ring's power and so is whatever age he wants), Jay (speed force), Wildcat (that whole 9 lives thing), Hawkman (reincarnation over and over again) and Johnny Thunder (merged with the T-Bolt) there is at least an explanation for all the present GAers being alive. Even Rex Tyler who is back because the Android Hourman took his place in ZH, can reasonably be 70-something and have a young son since he explicitly married late to a very young wife. Or you could use the old excuse that the JSA was stuck in Ragnorok-limbo for decades and didn't start having kids until they were back (The Atom/Al Pratt for example was actually the youngest of the golden agers when they killed him in ZH).

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