"I Remember Gwen"

[cyberghostface]

 

I posted a panel from this story the other day, and it inspired an...interesting discussion. Here's the context behind it. It comes from Amazing Spider-Man #365. Tom DeFalco plotted it, Stan Lee wrote the script and John Romita Sr. illustrated it.






Mary Jane thinks about the day Captain Stacy died, in which during a fight between Doctor Octopus and Spider-Man, a chimney fell over and Stacy was crushed saving a little boy from being hit.

Comments

[punishermax]

As much as I disagree with essentially everyone here about Spider-Man and his relationships, I love Gwen. Maybe my favorite Spider girlfriend.

[tifaeria]

Mine too. <3

[punishermax]

She's so....Sixties. In the best ways. She's like a fun, blond Veronica from Archie. Plus her going from hating the nerdy Peter Parker to liking him is pretty sweet in the comics.

I know it's a huge comics moment, and a fantastic issue but her death is one thing I would change in comics.

[xammax]

Do we still have access to that series of posts?

[punishermax]

Which ones?

[xammax]

There was an old series that was literally the Entire Saga of Gwen Stacy

[tifaeria]

I don't think so. We should try and do another series of posts surrounding her. It never hurts to show more scans of Gwen.

[parusmajor]

There's a scans_daily 1.0 back-up over here:
http://brrdd.com/sd/
Viewing the contents used to require asking login/pwd from scans_daily mods, but nowadays the page doesn't demand the password anymore for some reason.

Anyway, some of the last posts of s_d 1.0 are lost forever, but the Gwen Stacy series by 5thbeatle is still there. Press Ctrl+F to search "Julio's Take On Gwen Stacy" (without quotation marks), and you should find all the parts that were posted. The comments are not saved on the back-up though, which is a pity.
I think that 5thbeatle was gonna make some kind of wrap-up post after part 19, but that was never finished/posted. Also, all the text is in one long string and hard to read on the back-up site, and if you want it to be more readable, you're gonna need to save html files on your computer and fix the html code manually by adding <p> tags. (I saved and fixed the files on my own computer, so that I wouldn't lose the series again in case that back-up ever goes down.)

But yeah, I loved that Gwen Stacy series <3 It was some of the most informative and interesting stuff ever posted on the comm.

[jlbarnett]

from what I recall the only reason she hated him was because he didn't like her. She was offended by it.

[kagome654]

It's not even that he didn't like her, it's that he ignored her (he had a lot going on at the time), and she (like Harry and Flash) assumed it was because he was a snob. That aloofness both infuriated her and attracted her to him.

Yeah, very 60s.

[kenn_el]

I always point out the Gwen/Veronica comparison! It's nice to know I'm not alone in this! I mean, look at Captain Stacy and Mr. Lodge! And MJ is totally Betty, Harry Jughead, and Flash Reggie. I miss those days.
And MJ's harlequin dress is to die for!

[skalja]

Meh, I don't really see the Gwen/MJ -- Veronica/Betty comparison; they actually didn't complete for Peter very much at all, despite what people claim nowadays.

Unless you're just talking about one-to-one characterization, in which case, carry on! XD

[kenn_el]

Yup. I was more contrasting Gwen as rich girl with a protective father who didn't care much for Peter/Archie, and MJ as more of the girl-next-door type (Betty). Much of Betty and Veronica isn't even competition over Archie, but just disparate personalities meshing and/or conflicting.

[skalja]

Fair enough. Usually when I hear the Betty/Veronica comparison people are talking about the competition stuff, which for MJ and Gwen lasted ... I dunno, a handful of issues? They did trade boyfriends, admittedly, but I don't think that's competing. XD

[stratosfyr]

You know, I usually looked at that comparison the other way around, with Gwen as Betty and MJ and Veronica... but it makes a heck of a lot more sense that way. Huh.

[arilou_skiff]

Funny, there's another character I wouldn't kill off: Jeanne DeWolffe.

[chipsnopotatoes]

me three! i grew up during the gwen years :D

really nice of mj to remember her this way.