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Four scans from Daredevil #504.
 

The war between Daredevil and HAMMER heats up, as the Normster sends a battalion of HAMMER troopers into Hell's Kitchen to confront the Hand's ninja army, which has taken over a police precinct.




The police start shooting, and the ninjas attack, as part of Kingpin's plan to pit the two sides against each other while he watches from the sidelines.

Next morning, Dakota and Foggy survey the scene of the fight, from which all the cops/HAMMER guys seem to have vanished.




"...we'll have built a bigger prison."

Currently, he's holding all of Osborn's men in little cages in the sewer (and I mean literally in the sewer; they're at least waist-high in the water).

Also, countdown to Matt/Angela initiated.
 

char: daredevil/matt murdock, char: black tarantula/carlos lamuerta, char: white tiger/angela del toro, char: lady bullseye/maki matsumoto, title: daredevil, creator: andy diggle, creator: roberto de la torre

Date: 2010-01-30 10:52 pm (UTC)
terrykun: (lloyd ah-hah)
From: [personal profile] terrykun
Shadowland - The Ninja'est Place On Earth

Call your travel agent today and find out how a family of four can stay for as little as $99 day night, plus airfare.

Date: 2010-01-30 11:43 pm (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
And of course you can be guaranteed good healthcare, as it's likely there'll be community visits by a certain Doctor who hangs out at the same Irish bar as Matt and also likes to pretend to be Batman.

Date: 2010-01-30 11:05 pm (UTC)
ext_399474: (Default)
From: [identity profile] kainnived.livejournal.com
I really don't want to see the Kingpin back in play. I like the idea of The Hood, a street level wiseguy who got superpowers who actually organized costumed villains into a working criminal organization. The mob with superpowers and silly costumes.

Kingpin, while a great character in his time, seems like a step backwards. Even with his his assassins and muscle, I just can't imagine this guy getting away with it in a world of people like Thor, Captain America, and Iron Man. It seemed like only people like Daredevil, Spider-Man, and Punisher ever regularly dealt with the Kingpin... while the more Save the World superheroes ignored a large criminal organization operating within their home city.

Maybe that's just me but it always seemed a little off. Why didn't the Avengers or Nick Fury take him down? I don't know why The Hood's pragmatism, and lead from the front style of showig he's not afraid to get his hands dirty, just seems to click better to me in the world with costumed villains than untouchable Fisk in his ivory tower.

Date: 2010-01-31 11:54 am (UTC)
jettblack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jettblack
International peacekeepers don't tend to bother with thing that only affect one city, no matter how large.

I'd imagine it would be even more the case with superheroes who save the world all the time. With Doctor Doom, Loki, and the Mandarin out and about, who needs the extra work of bringing down someone who doesn't want to rule the world?

Fisk is like Batman, or Luther

Date: 2010-01-31 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] pervymax
He's an embodiment of the potential of man, in comics forum. Yes, he's evil. And yes, he lacks super powers. But that's exactly his point. The human capacity for evil, and genius, is *more* scary then a guy who flies.

It is to me, anyway.

Date: 2010-01-30 11:28 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mullon
This won't end well. It's going to all come crashing down.

Date: 2010-01-30 11:39 pm (UTC)
yaseen101: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaseen101
Dammit, when Daredevil took over Hand, I didn't want him to go bug fuck crazy like this. I wanted to see something cool like him taking on other bad guys, finding out about Izo, taking on and handling bigger fights, working with other heroes , getting a cool new costume or heck fighting bad guys in Japan, NOT going through another MEH or his 50th breakdown.

Date: 2010-01-30 11:47 pm (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
Well, I see leading the Hand is good for Matt mental health.

Date: 2010-01-31 12:05 am (UTC)
ulf_boehnke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ulf_boehnke
If that's really DD, I can't imagine how Marvel can save his reputation as a hero.

Date: 2010-01-31 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] taggerung301
I dunno, he seems to be doing all right so far

he's using the hand for good (or at least less evil) purposes

Date: 2010-01-31 01:11 am (UTC)
ulf_boehnke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ulf_boehnke
Building a private Viet Cong style prison sounds very evil to me.

Date: 2010-01-31 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] taggerung301
true

Still, I'm more or less thinking along the lines of "it could be worse"

Date: 2010-01-31 01:24 am (UTC)
ulf_boehnke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ulf_boehnke
Yea, it could be raining.

Date: 2010-01-31 01:28 am (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Combo headshot of Cass Cain, Steph Brown, and Babs Gordon, the 3 Batgirls, "Bow to the Goddammned Batgirls" in a corner (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
I think Taggerung is thinking more along the lines of picking the lesser evil at this point

Date: 2010-01-31 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] taggerung301
thank you raven

Date: 2010-01-31 02:50 am (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Combo headshot of Cass Cain, Steph Brown, and Babs Gordon, the 3 Batgirls, "Bow to the Goddammned Batgirls" in a corner (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
No prob. I figured you weren't all " Mistreatment of prisoners, yeah!" :)

Date: 2010-01-31 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] taggerung301
I saw the phrase "Hand of Justice," and immediately my mind went straight to the gutter

Date: 2010-01-31 12:17 am (UTC)
terrykun: (don't listen)
From: [personal profile] terrykun
Would you prefer the Fist?

Date: 2010-01-31 12:18 am (UTC)
yaseen101: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaseen101
You can still do a reference to Fisting.

Date: 2010-01-31 12:44 am (UTC)
randyripoff: (Default)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
I've gotten so bored with Daredevil lately. I miss Daredevil the superhero, not Daredevil the psychopath.

Date: 2010-01-31 02:22 am (UTC)
yaseen101: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaseen101
MOTTO.

Date: 2010-01-31 02:51 am (UTC)
punishermax: (Default)
From: [personal profile] punishermax
To be fair, DD can't really have a good day without Bullseye murdering 10 of his immediate family and his dog, so that ruins anyone's heroic feelings.

Date: 2010-01-31 04:42 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: ivory (pic#413049)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Not to mention that when a street level hero numbers the Devil as part of his rogues gallery it doesn't really bode well for anyone's sanity.

Date: 2010-01-31 01:26 am (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Combo headshot of Cass Cain, Steph Brown, and Babs Gordon, the 3 Batgirls, "Bow to the Goddammned Batgirls" in a corner (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
I miss Pierce-written White Tiger. I have a feeling she would be into this mess for about thirty seconds before saying, "You know what? I'm not dealing with this craziness," and trying to talk some sense into Daredevil.

Date: 2010-01-31 05:59 am (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (spider-man: spideyrat)
From: [personal profile] skalja
Yay, someone else who likes Pierce-written White Tiger. I thought I was all alone. (Yes, yes, it's scans_daily, I know! XD)

Date: 2010-01-31 07:25 pm (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Combo headshot of Cass Cain, Steph Brown, and Babs Gordon, the 3 Batgirls, "Bow to the Goddammned Batgirls" in a corner (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
Yay, I thought I was the only one too! I actually heard about her White Tiger work from her site, then I found the book in my library! I wish she did more comic work....

Date: 2010-01-31 07:40 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (dc: dinah scream)
From: [personal profile] skalja
Sadly, it seems unlikely she'll be coming back to Marvel at the very least. My memories are a bit fuzzy on the specifics since it was several years ago, and she understandably didn't get into too much detail on her livejournal, but so far as I can tell what happened is that she and her husband didn't fit at all into the boys' club atmosphere of the company and they weren't quiet about being critical. I really don't know whether it was them or their editors who decided they had to leave, but leave they did.

Date: 2010-01-31 08:01 pm (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Combo headshot of Cass Cain, Steph Brown, and Babs Gordon, the 3 Batgirls, "Bow to the Goddammned Batgirls" in a corner (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
That's right, her husband did the art for that book! But I'm not surprised their views wouldn't jive well with the general Marvel attitude. Now, if she went to DC and started writing any of the Titans books, or any of the girl superheroine books...that would be excellent. Wow, what if she wrote a new book for Cass? (I guess I should just ask for a pony while I'm at it...)

Date: 2010-01-31 09:21 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (spider-man: spideyrat)
From: [personal profile] skalja
They were co-authors, actually -- Phil Briones and someone else did the art.

Date: 2010-01-31 11:17 pm (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Combo headshot of Cass Cain, Steph Brown, and Babs Gordon, the 3 Batgirls, "Bow to the Goddammned Batgirls" in a corner (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
Oh, ok, my mistake

Date: 2010-01-31 06:01 am (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (marvel: daredevil on white)
From: [personal profile] skalja
Okay, so I haven't been reading. People who have, am I off-base in my impression that this is Matt pulling a Kingpin again, except with moar ninjas and not originally of his own free will?

Date: 2010-01-31 11:07 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
And less of a grip on reality too.

Date: 2010-01-31 09:38 am (UTC)
box_in_the_box: (Default)
From: [personal profile] box_in_the_box
As much as I hate this, I have to admit, the one thing I like is Norman going up against a truly powerful and CRAZY "hero," because Norman is just barely self-aware enough about his own insanity that, if he realized that an enemy was even more bugfuck batshit than himself, he'd likely shit his pants in terror.

In fact, now I want to see it - Norman Osborn versus the Mask. The Mask would literally drive Norman SANE, and it would be the most horrible feeling that Norman has ever felt in his life.

Date: 2010-01-31 12:08 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
So it's okay for a self appointed "hero" to sanction the cold blooded murder of HAMMER troops, who, one assumes, are not ALL kill crazy bastards, but are just grunts doing their job?

And yeah, I don't care what you're responsibilities are, you don't declare war like that with yourself as the figurehead, then wander off to Japan.

It's a good thing I really don't give a crap about Daredevil.

Date: 2010-01-31 07:43 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (marvel: daredevil on white)
From: [personal profile] skalja
That's still very far away from the heroic end of the scale. I mean, it can't be too much to ask that superheroes not specifically written as being anti- or otherwise subversive/problematic should abide by the Geneva Conventions.

Date: 2010-01-31 08:05 pm (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Combo headshot of Cass Cain, Steph Brown, and Babs Gordon, the 3 Batgirls, "Bow to the Goddammned Batgirls" in a corner (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
I have to agree, but yeah, it's not as if I'm a big fan of DD , so I'm not that upset...

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