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Entry tags:char: marvel girl/phoenix/jean grey, creator: kurt busiek, group: x-men, publisher: marvel comics


As some might know, when Jim Shooter was editor-in-chief of Marvel, he had an edict in place preventing Jean Grey from being brought back to life. This was because he felt that anyone who killed as many people as Dark Phoenix needed to either be killed off or suffer for eternity. (If Claremont or Byrne had their druthers, she would have remained alive at the end of the Phoenix Saga, which was their original plan.)

Kurt Busiek, back when he was just a fan, was the one who came up with how to revive Jean Grey without violating Shooter's edict. That's why there's a thank you to him in the credits of the comic in which she comes back.

Recently, Busiek posted on his blog his original notes detailing the whole of his story idea. Providing context, he explains, "Sometime between then and May 1982, when I graduated college and sold my first script, I started taking notes for various Marvel series I hoped to write someday, to make sure I didn't forget any of my 'great ideas,' few of which were great, or even memorable."






Further background info on the document can be found at his blog.

creator: kurt busiek, group: x-men, publisher: marvel comics

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[personal profile] chipsnopotatoes
2010-02-09 11:59 pm UTC (link)
"As some might know, when Jim Shooter was editor-in-chief of Marvel, he had an edict in place preventing Jean Grey from being brought back to life. This was because he felt that anyone who killed as many people as Dark Phoenix needed to either be killed off or suffer for eternity."

Isn't this rather absurd for Jim to think that way? Wasnt he the one who greenlighted the story of her eating planets and all?

Besides, no sense in being named Phoenix if you don't keep rising from the ashes, no?

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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2010-02-10 02:18 am UTC (link)
supposedly Byrne threw in her frying the planet of the Broccoli for arts sake. He's the guy who wanted Wolverine to kill after all, I think he just considered more deaths as better drama. "So she blows up a star? Cool. I know, I'll toss in a panel to show there's an inhabited planet there."

And once that was done Shooter decided she had to stay dead, as though the characters were real people.

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[personal profile] arbre_rieur
2010-02-10 04:05 am UTC (link)
And you've just hit on one of the reasons a lot of creators dislike Shooter. It'd be one thing for him to have told Byrne and Claremont when the issue with planet was still being worked on, if he said, "Hey, you guys sure you want to do this? Because if you do, we're going to have to go with one of these two ultimate fates..." But instead, he doesn't tell them till they're working on the final issue, after it's too late to change the planet's destruction.

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