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The modern JSA has travelled back in time to 1951, just after the original team broke up because of the McCarthy hearings, to warn their counterparts of the timetravelling supervillain Per Degaton's attempts to change the past to erase their future.

Here Michael Holt, the modern Mr Terrific, tries to catch up with his predecessor.



And here's a bit of Wesley Dodds, who frankly doesn't get enough love here, frankly. On an interesting note, he also aubjected to a kind of prejudice, though that was more covered in the Sandman Mystery Theatre section of his continuity.

Basically his mother was Jewish and his father was a nonpracticing Catholic, and their marriage caused both sides of the family to disown them. Technically this would make Wesley Jewish too, but the behaviour of both sets of grandparents made him go for more "Eastern" alternatives instead.

The anti-semitism of the time is also covered in the flashbacks of the excellent 'the Twelve' series that Marvel was releasing for a while, though I'm not sure if that's still going or not.

Anyway, here's Wesley with his awesome girlfriend Dian Belmont. In the original comics she acted as his sidekick and partner in his detective work, though she was unfortunately kicked to the kerb for a more... traditional sidekick in the form of her nephew, Sandy Hawkins. This was also followed with a horrible spandex costume.




Later, Sandy reintroduces himself,


Meanwhile, Modern Mr Terrific has trailed the older version to New Orleans, where he's growing increasingly pissed off by the whole segregation thing. He see's the original one rush out of a casino owned by the original Roulette, holding a bundle under his arm.

Modern Mr T follows him into a graveyard, and instead of it being filled with obnoxious floppy haired vampires, which I've been lead to believe frequently out in cemetaries in that city, he comes across someone even worse,



Up Next: Bedsheet Bigot Beatdown!

title: jsa
creator: geoff johns
char: sandman/wesley dodds
char: mr terrific/michael holt

Date: 2010-02-17 10:38 pm (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
Another one of John's dropped plotpoints here. Ned Sloan, Terry's ne'er do-well brother, is actually the grandfather of the supervillainess Roulette but she thinks that Terry Sloan is her grandfather (because he took responsibiity?) and has his picture in her office in her arena. And we haven't heard about it since.

Date: 2010-02-18 01:15 am (UTC)
iskander: (Default)
From: [personal profile] iskander
yup. Been a thorn in my shoe ever since.

Date: 2010-02-17 10:54 pm (UTC)
ravenous_raven: A coffee cup with the Batsymbol on it (Batman Coffee Cup)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
Up Next: Bedsheet Bigot Beatdown!

Ooh, this is gonna be good...

Date: 2010-02-18 08:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradhanon
One of the rules of American fiction is that beating the hell out of KKK members is always okay. You don't need to explain it or justify it or anything. Dude in a pointy hood... kick his ass. QED.

Date: 2010-02-17 11:08 pm (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
And the original:

They call me Mr. Tibbs!

At 6:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaq_Yj4dmY

Date: 2010-02-17 11:29 pm (UTC)
punishermax: (Default)
From: [personal profile] punishermax
Oh god, It's the secret KKK version of the X-Men!

Date: 2010-02-18 05:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
Yeah, I noticed that too...extremely odd, to say the least.

Date: 2010-02-17 11:35 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Er...

I can appreciate a dramatic moment in fiction as much as the next person, but if Holt is from our time, wouldn't he have known enough history to know about Jim Crow?

Date: 2010-02-17 11:46 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (jan1)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Ah, okay. I'm used to time-travel stories like The Doomsday Book, where they spend an exhaustive amount of time drilling the travelers on How To Never Ever Behave In The Past Ever And We Really Mean It.

;)

Date: 2010-02-17 11:43 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Didn't the old and new Mr. Terrfic meet already? In JSA 42?

Date: 2010-02-17 11:44 pm (UTC)
yaseen101: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaseen101
Mr. Terrific vs the KKK? Yes please!

Date: 2010-02-18 12:15 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Something tells me it's both Misters Terrific vs. the KKK.

Date: 2010-02-18 12:25 am (UTC)
yaseen101: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaseen101
Even Better!

Date: 2010-02-17 11:50 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (flight1)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Oh, wow. This thread just reminded me of what I wanted to put in the Requests thread!

[runs away]

Date: 2010-02-18 01:16 am (UTC)
iskander: (Default)
From: [personal profile] iskander
This was GJ's best storyline in the book.

Date: 2010-02-18 01:23 am (UTC)
rainspirit: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rainspirit
That last panel of Mr. Terrific is... uh...

Okay, is there any way of looking at that without imagining him thrusting his pelvis at the KKK?

I mean, the only alternate interpretation I can think of is him saying, "They call me Captain Tightpants! HUNH!"

Date: 2010-02-18 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zordboy
And they do seem to be very tight indeed, at that.

Date: 2010-02-18 02:14 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Technically this would make Wesley Jewish too, but the behaviour of both sets of grandparents made him go for more "Eastern" alternatives instead.

You probably didn't mean to imply this with the language, but for other readers' clarification:

Wesley Dodds IS Jewish (specifically because Jews trace lineage through the mother, as opposed to most cultures tracing through the father), he just chooses not to practice Judaism.

A lot of Jews are in the same boat, Jewish in culture and ethnicity (if even only "half"), but not in religion. I'm one of them.

Date: 2010-02-18 02:58 am (UTC)
cleome45: (violet2)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
...A lot of Jews are in the same boat, Jewish in culture and ethnicity (if even only "half"), but not in religion. I'm one of them...

:)

I was trying to explain this to somebody on another comics board who kept insisting that a character who'd been retconned as Jewish didn't really "work" that way, because...

Well, first it was because he didn't look Jewish (ie-- like Richard Lewis or Mel Brooks) and then it was because... I dunno'. He didn't emulate Sandy Koufax and sit out a big battle because it was Yom Kippur?

Sometimes you just have to take a deep breath and keep trying. :/

Date: 2010-02-18 05:22 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (It's raining. No. It's raining. On my fa)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
didn't look Jewish

. . .

Date: 2010-02-18 05:45 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Maybe it was a porno comic?

/rimshot

Date: 2010-02-18 06:07 am (UTC)
cleome45: (brainy1)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Don't be sad. The sad is so not worth the energy.

Cookies?

Date: 2010-02-18 05:44 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Kosher, baby. Very kosher.

Jew is much more in the mind than in the flesh.

Date: 2010-02-18 06:08 am (UTC)
cleome45: (violet1)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
(Aw. The link doesn't go anywhere. What was it supposed to be?)

Agreed, of course.

Date: 2010-02-18 06:31 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
WHAT!? Dang.

It was a very pimp picture of Mr. Sammy Davis, Jr.

Date: 2010-02-18 07:23 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Sammy!

<3 <3 <3

If only he'd lived long enough for role in the Trek-verse, just like Theodore Bikel. :)

Date: 2010-02-18 02:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jlroberson

Date: 2010-02-18 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scenesaroundjackson.wordpress.com
"They call me...MR. TERRIFIC."

i love it just as much now as when i read it the first time in the comic! :)

Date: 2010-02-18 04:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
Last page all you can feel inside is saying hell yeah!

Date: 2010-02-18 07:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ian_karkull
Oh, this is a great story, Looking forward to see the rest of it.

May I ask you to post the meeting between the Dotcors Midnight as well? such a perfect character moment.

Date: 2010-02-18 04:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katok
Wait, I don't own this and it looks good. Issue # or Trade please :D

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