scans_daily: X-Force #25

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@ 2010-03-31 11:10 pm UTC

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creator: chris yost, creator: clayton crain, creator: craig kyle, publisher: marvel comics, title: x-force

X-Force #25

This is from X-Force #25, by Craig Kyle, Christopher Yost, and Clayton Crain.

For those who don't know, Wolverine's referencing how he gutted Rachel Summers to stop her from killing Selene. Yeah.

title: x-force, creator: chris yost, publisher: marvel comics,creator: craig kyle, creator: clayton crain,

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	no subject auggie18 2010-04-01 03:39 am UTC (link)
	I remember that moment, James. I remember when Rachel was going to kill her and you were all "X-men don't kill" and she was all "she's a mass murdering vampire, I think it's okay," and then you stabbed her. And she would've died if it wasn't for Spiral. You giant hypocrite. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 14 comments) (Show 14 comments)

	no subject suzene 2010-04-01 03:45 am UTC (link)
	I think Logan lost the moral high ground on the "X-Men don't kill" when he agreed to join Cyke's stabby-squad. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 12 comments) (Show 12 comments)

	no subject colonel_green 2010-04-01 03:46 am UTC (link)
	He left that ground quite a while before that (most of the X-Men have killed by this point, anyway). (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 11 comments) (Show 11 comments)

	no subject suzene 2010-04-01 03:49 am UTC (link)
	Point. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject flint_marko 2010-04-01 03:52 am UTC (link)
	He had already left that ground when he tried stopping Rachel. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 9 comments) (Show 9 comments)

	no subject auggie18 2010-04-01 04:00 am UTC (link)
	EXACTLY! He tried to stop Rachel from murdering by murdering her. Because X-men don't kill. Logic fail. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 8 comments) (Show 8 comments)

	no subject flint_marko 2010-04-01 04:02 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, though I meant that he had already killed a lot of people beforehand. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject colonel_green 2010-04-01 04:04 am UTC (link)
	Wolverine is known for his mastery of logic. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject tacobob 2010-04-01 06:53 pm UTC (link)
	And Pancakes! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject lamashtar 2010-04-02 02:48 am UTC (link)
	And tact and diplomacy! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject tacobob 2010-04-02 03:12 am UTC (link)
	And Pancakes! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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icon_uk
2010-04-01 09:44 am UTC (link)

To be fair, he tried to stop Rachel murdering Selene not because it was Selene, but because of the risks it posed to Rachel. She was already in a slightly fragile state about killing due to her own past as a Hound, and because if someone with the Phoenix Force inside them starts thinking killing is a good idea, then Dark Phoenix is probably only a heartbeat away.

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wizardru
2010-04-01 02:38 pm UTC (link)

Motto. There used to be a time...now long past, I guess, when the X-men had the Moral High Ground. You know, when Magneto was a mass-murdering terrorist who had lost his own objectivity and couldn't see the Irony of his own actions.

Wolverine was the original anti-hero who kills. He just used to do it off-panel in the 1970s. He wasn't protecting Selene, he was protecting Rachel. Plus, you know...Selene has been killed before, iirc. She's one of those mystical Claremont villains who never really stays dead.

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colonel_green
2010-04-01 06:57 pm UTC (link)

On the "moral high ground" issue, I don't know that anything they've been doing lately losing them that - Magneto (at his worst) was all about oppressing humans, which the X-Men opposed. X-Force, despite the bad buzz it gets, has killed....mass-murderers, all of whom were in the process of planning and executing new genocidal actions against mutants; there wasn't the slightest bit of ambiguity about any of them.

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	no subject book-of-daniel.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 04:29 am UTC (link)
	Claremontian Logic at it's finest? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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