Batman and Robin #11

[flint_marko]

This is from Batman and Robin #11, by Grant Morrison and Andy Clarke.







title: batman and robin, creator: grant morrison, creator: andy clarke

Comments

[theanswer]

I don't see how this goes against her character. Seems very in character for Talia. She's always been an unpredictable woman aside from the certainty that she would use any excuse to have sex with Bruce.

[midnightvoyager]

.....But how does it help her have sex with Bruce if she's had him beaten to death using her kid?

[theanswer]

Well we don't that is Bruce.

[pepperspray101]

It's ironic that the story that inspired Morrison to create Damian failed to remind him that Talia was a truly caring person who fearing for Bruce's life and that of her son's faked a miscarriage in order to give her baby a normal life with normal loving parents and free Bruce from the parenthood that he wasn't exactly ready for.

*sighs* Yet somehow, Talia the rapist and manipulator of her own flesh and blood is an improvement over that old Talia. *sighs*

[queenursula]

This is what Grant Morrison said about that.

"For a long time, [DC] said [Son of the Demon] was out of continuity. Now it's just kind of out of continuity. I didn't actually read it before I started writing this. I messed up a lot of details, like Batman wasn't drugged when he was having sex with Talia and it didn't take place in the desert. I was relying on shaky memories. But now we have this new "Superboy punch" continuity [after Superboy Prime attacked the fabric of the universe during Infinite Crisis]. People still don't realize how important that single punch was to cover everyone's ass."

[pepperspray101]

I've read this before. I know he didn't remember it right when he began writing. I'm just commenting on how funny/sad it is that the only thing he remembered correctly about Talia was that she had Bruce's baby, and that's it. Not any of the other crucial details that inevitably affected that story (or things that presented her in a positive light, for example).

But yeah, that's some hell of a shaky memory he's got, for him to have remembered it like that. O_o It's obvious the guy didn't care if he was wrong. I seriously doubt there was no one in DC who said..."uh, I think you're remembering it wrong. U sure about this?" He didn't mess up any details, he just disregarded the original and went off on his own tangent. He wasn't relying on any shaky memories, just his wacky imagination.

Some people go for that. Cool. I still hate that the one time Talia is good, it's completely thrown out the window, only to be replaced by Rapist Talia. yay.

[theanswer]

That's an out of continuity story.

[pepperspray101]

Right. So only the pieces that Morrison likes are in continuity and the rest (which show a woman in a positive light) are thrown out in the trash. Yes. I see what he did there.