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Date: 2010-04-16 09:13 am (UTC)
ulf_boehnke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ulf_boehnke
Whut? Is that possible in the US?

Date: 2010-04-16 09:32 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
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Happens all the time in Westerns...

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Date: 2010-04-16 10:01 am (UTC)
flidgetjerome: Hark, a Vagrant #328 (Default)
From: [personal profile] flidgetjerome
Buz-wha?

Y'know, if we were being realistic a verdict this bizarre would lead to 36 issues all about a long, drawn-out appeals process and people on cable news talking about case precedent and mistrials.

Justice!!!

Date: 2010-04-16 10:44 am (UTC)
aulayan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] aulayan
For a high profile case like this, you're right. (Also given the nature of this case, shouldn't it have taken years and years to drag out? Or if Ollie was really upset, couldn't he have plead Guilty?)

However, Judges have made some -really- weird punishments in the past. So I think this could be done. No appeals or anything like that if Ollie didn't want it.

Speaking of Star city, however. Maybe Poison Ivy will move in there after what happened in Brightest Day 0.

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Date: 2010-04-16 11:28 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Shouldn't the trial have been held in another jurisdiction anyway? It's not like they could hope to find an impartial jury when the crime is of this stature, yes?

Date: 2010-04-16 11:42 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
I wish we could see Ollie's lawyer give his defense.

~Holds up picture of Lian~
~Holds up picture of dead Lian~

The defense rests.

Date: 2010-04-16 04:11 pm (UTC)
math_camel: the symbol for an angstrom (Default)
From: [personal profile] math_camel
Maybe that's why it was over so quickly.

Date: 2010-04-16 11:52 am (UTC)
bmaryott: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bmaryott
Jury Nullification - very real.

Having a judge run you out of town after a long drawn out public trial that probably made national if not international news - not even close to realistic.

Date: 2010-04-16 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theanswer
Completely within a judge's power to do so. They've done stranger things.

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Date: 2010-04-16 12:34 pm (UTC)
sweettart1823: (Arrow Family)
From: [personal profile] sweettart1823
You know I seriously can't even look at this because the art. Who are those people he's looking at. Surely they are some random people we've never seen before because they don't look like anyone I recognize >>

Date: 2010-04-16 01:05 pm (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Looks like Sharon Carter, Bucky and Cap making a guest appearance to me. Though Bucky is looking awfully secret ginger in the hair department. Maybe he's trying to fit in?

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Date: 2010-04-16 12:56 pm (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
Two seconds later, "Help! Help! Star City is being attacked by ducks! Save us Green Arrow!"

Date: 2010-04-16 02:09 pm (UTC)
aulayan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] aulayan
So that's why there's no ducks in that duck pond...

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Date: 2010-04-16 01:21 pm (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
From a legal standpoint, I'm sure this is about as realistic as the moon turning into a flock of winged monkeys, but from a storytelling perspective I think it works well enough. It's probably the only way out of the crap pit that was CRY for JUSTIIIIIIIICE! anyhow, short of having Ollie executed or something.

At the very least, it leaves things open for an "Ollie the vagabond" sort of story, which would actually work with him. Note they already carefully cut ties with Dinah, which also points in that direction.

Date: 2010-04-16 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zordboy
"From a legal standpoint, I'm sure this is about as realistic as the moon turning into a flock of winged monkeys..."

I don't know. Leaving aside the fact that if he'd pleaded guilty in the first place, then it would not have even gone to trial (which is a big count against it)... Ollie murdered a guy who wiped out half a city, and I think it's entirely understandable that a jury wouldn't want to punish him for that (and Ollie's internal monologue regarding the jury's decision is probably spot on).

As for the judge, he was smart enough to realise that if he'd simply said, "Well screw you, I'm going to find him guilty anyway", that would cause everyone *huge* problems later on down the line, for everyone who ever stepped foot in a courtroom from that point on.

The whole storyline is still rubbish but for some of the legal stuff, I can understand why they did what they did.

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Date: 2010-04-16 01:28 pm (UTC)
zemo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zemo
Btw: You can say what you want, but Barry comes out as nothing less than an omega douche in this whole story.

Plus, I know that Ollie's secret identity has been wobbly at best over the years, so no one can tell me that the whole population of Star City is surprised shitless that he is Green Arrow. That also makes the whole idea that some love him and some hate him unviable. Because if some knew, everybody knew, and that means the whole city simply accepted him all these years. Because it would have need just one single hater to hear about Green Arrow's alter ego to get him to jail.

Date: 2010-04-16 01:41 pm (UTC)
comicoz: Really, 99 of them (Default)
From: [personal profile] comicoz
While Ollie's secret identity was probably the worst kept secret around, I didn't realize it was "public" knowledge yet. After all, the general population of comics tends to be only a few levels of conciousness above amoeba anyway.

Clark at least tries to look different. Ollie has that silly facial hair...

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Date: 2010-04-16 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zordboy
Yeah, regardless of what the jury did or didn't do (and their reaction is entirely understandable given who it was who Ollie offed) -- Ollie would've pleaded guilty from the start, wouldn't he? Therefore it never would've made it to trial in the first place.

Continuing the theme that there is nothing about "Cry For Justice" and everything associated with it that *isn't* incredibly, mind-numbingly stupid.

Date: 2010-04-16 03:11 pm (UTC)
thokstar: Spot (Default)
From: [personal profile] thokstar
GA might have wanted a trial just to show that proper procedures had been followed, in which case he would have plead no contest.

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Date: 2010-04-16 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] what-the-jack.livejournal.com
I refuse to believe that anyone in Star City would even attempt to think of Ollie as a murderer. It's like saying, "You're under arrest for tracking down and murdering Osama bin Laden. You son of a bitch."

Also, I don't think that anyone even has the right to press charges against him. Prometheus was in some kind of pocket dimension, and thus presumably out of Star City's borders. Or so I assumed.

Date: 2010-04-17 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
From what I understood, the main police officer who wanted him arrested was completely and utterly corrupt, so he wanted the vigilante out of the city in whatever way he could.

Date: 2010-04-16 04:15 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Wonder how long this will last....

Date: 2010-04-16 05:31 pm (UTC)
3goodtimes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] 3goodtimes
Are the three in the crowd supposed to be Mia, Roy, and Connor? Dinah, Hal, and Barry?

I can't tell. They don't look even remotely recognizable to me.

This trial is goofy.

Date: 2010-04-16 08:34 pm (UTC)
catey: (Default)
From: [personal profile] catey
Dinah, Connor and Roy weren't there. It's like they totally abandonned Ollie. The three faces are Mia, Hal and Barry. The art is pretty much horrible, and I wouldn't even know who was who if they weren't named a few panels earlier.

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Date: 2010-04-16 06:03 pm (UTC)
lencannon: shy guy (Default)
From: [personal profile] lencannon
AAAAAAAAAAAGH THIS IS NOT HOW THINGS WORK

I HATE THIS STORYLINE SO MUCH IT .... I........ I.....


I have so much nerd rage, gods forgive me. So much nerd rage.

Date: 2010-04-16 06:24 pm (UTC)
equinox216: (Default)
From: [personal profile] equinox216
Up until now, nobody understood that "Cry for Justice" wasn't a statement; it was a demand.

Poor justice.

Date: 2010-04-16 07:24 pm (UTC)
ext_398513: (Default)
From: [identity profile] tornadotwin.blogspot.com
Isn't being a vigilante a crime? If they don't want to find him guilty of justice, er, murder then he can be jailed for vigilanteism, right?

Date: 2010-04-17 02:59 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Yeah, that'd open a legal floodgate of prosecution, especially since Morrison tried establish at least some "officially designated superhero" laws back in Aztek.

Date: 2010-04-16 07:25 pm (UTC)
ext_398513: (Default)
From: [identity profile] tornadotwin.blogspot.com
Also did someone cut Ollie's beard? why's it flat and boring?

Date: 2010-04-16 07:47 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Kamino Neko's default icon... (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
... One bright spot... Ollie's narration acknowledges his hypocrisy. It's nice to have him grow a few braincells.

Date: 2010-04-16 08:56 pm (UTC)
catey: (Default)
From: [personal profile] catey
Remember what he did the last time he killed a man? He went on a journey. I'm willing to bet that's exactly what's gonna happen, especially now that there's nothing left for him. He's going to live like a savage in some jungle, chase more girls because he misses his wife, find out that he has fathered another kid. And later, when Hal asks him to come back, Dinah will forgive him, and they will live happily ever after until he screws up again.


Date: 2010-04-16 10:56 pm (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
Show me one thing in law that allows this to be done, especially after a NOT GUILTY verdict.

This is utter BS.

Date: 2010-04-17 01:08 am (UTC)
freezer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] freezer
The defendant accepting it with a shrug, pretty much. A first-year law student would be able to get that "exile" thrown out, assuming an emergency appeal hearing didn't get there first.

Date: 2010-04-16 10:59 pm (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
So considering the reboot...Just how does Ollie get around to getting back into Star City?

Date: 2010-04-16 11:59 pm (UTC)
zemo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zemo
By living in the star-shaped woodds Boston Brand made. I shit you not.

Date: 2010-04-17 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
This is all to turn Ollie into Robin Hood.

Date: 2010-04-17 01:15 am (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Hal Jordan/Ollie yelling)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
I just...can't take this seriously. Ollie's moustache is too jaunty.

Date: 2010-04-17 01:24 am (UTC)
kingrockwell: he's a sexy (Death of the Endless)
From: [personal profile] kingrockwell
Is it just me or does it look like the inker left this one half-finished?
art is so important you guys
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