Those who teach, can...
May. 1st, 2010 02:56 pmFans of comics love to argue who is the best/fastest/toughest character. Among DC Martial Artists, Cassandra Cain, Lady Shiva, or Batman often get the nod. But there's one fellow who sometimes gets missed, even though he's been around since the early 70's:

Part of it is understandable, as he disappeared from comics after his short-lived series (based on a novel by Denny O'Neill & Jim Berry) was canceled, but 23 years ago, Denny re-invented him as the archetypal martial arts master, that guy who isn't as flashy as some, but is the best person to learn from.
Richard first re-appeared (along with his sometime ally Lady Shiva) in The Question #2, where he put Vic Sage on the path to, if not enlightenment, at least relative sanity:

After that, he disappeared from the book until the last arc, when he showed that he wasn't quite as helpless as Vic had assumed.
After Barbara Gordon was shot by the Joker, Richard helped her find new strength, both physically and mentally.



When Vic Sage saw Huntress heading down the same self-destructive path he'd been on, he took her to Richard, hoping that he'd be able to help her as well.


And finally, when Vic was searching for a successor, he took Renee Montoya to Nanda Parbat, where Richard now resided

It's because these scenes (among others) were so cool that I didn't care for the Dixon revamp. I do have a pet theory that "Richie" is a different fellow entirely, but this might not be the place for that. :)
(Scans from Birds of Prey #87, Batman Chronicles #5, Cry For Blood #3, and 52 #27.)

Part of it is understandable, as he disappeared from comics after his short-lived series (based on a novel by Denny O'Neill & Jim Berry) was canceled, but 23 years ago, Denny re-invented him as the archetypal martial arts master, that guy who isn't as flashy as some, but is the best person to learn from.
Richard first re-appeared (along with his sometime ally Lady Shiva) in The Question #2, where he put Vic Sage on the path to, if not enlightenment, at least relative sanity:

After that, he disappeared from the book until the last arc, when he showed that he wasn't quite as helpless as Vic had assumed.
After Barbara Gordon was shot by the Joker, Richard helped her find new strength, both physically and mentally.



When Vic Sage saw Huntress heading down the same self-destructive path he'd been on, he took her to Richard, hoping that he'd be able to help her as well.


And finally, when Vic was searching for a successor, he took Renee Montoya to Nanda Parbat, where Richard now resided

It's because these scenes (among others) were so cool that I didn't care for the Dixon revamp. I do have a pet theory that "Richie" is a different fellow entirely, but this might not be the place for that. :)
(Scans from Birds of Prey #87, Batman Chronicles #5, Cry For Blood #3, and 52 #27.)

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Date: 2010-05-01 07:46 pm (UTC)It's either that or go directly to Sun Wukong.
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Date: 2010-05-01 10:25 pm (UTC)That, and Sun Wukong is just awesome.
And end it Cass, Conner and whoever else gets snagged along in a final test of their skills.
A raid on the JLA watchtower, while the full guard is there.
In a repeat of Monkey's raid on the Jade Empreror's palace.
Why would Monkey do such a thing? Because it is there! No one's hurt terribly by the assault, but Monkey sure has a laugh.
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Date: 2010-05-02 12:54 am (UTC)Why? Because they are there--and because it is MONKEY!
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Date: 2010-05-02 01:46 pm (UTC)Sorry, possibly something only Brits of a certain age will get, but if you seek enlightenment, click here
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Date: 2010-05-01 07:49 pm (UTC)How would you know, you've got a lampshade pulled over yur face.
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Date: 2010-05-01 08:09 pm (UTC)(That's one of the 12 Brothers In Silk that Gail used in BoP. The hats don't stop them from being some of the toughest foes Dinah ever fought)
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Date: 2010-05-02 05:02 pm (UTC)Then again, maybe they just like to party and they ARE lampshades.
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Date: 2010-05-02 02:11 pm (UTC)"Seriously. is it? I can't see a goddamn thing."
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Date: 2010-05-02 12:44 am (UTC)He also seems to love using soft arts to pwn students. Then again, when your master's name was O-Sensei...
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Date: 2010-05-02 02:50 pm (UTC)Her mistake is that she's not following the leader. If Richard is training her, then she shouldn't be going off on her own.
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Date: 2010-05-02 02:21 am (UTC)2004 was a funny year for properties created by or defined by Denny. After he left DC, it feels like there was some campaign to swipe his work under the rug, what with Dixon's Richard Dragon series, Veitch's Question mini and the later retcon of Shiva's origin in Batgirl. Continuity was a weird thing around that time anyway, so I think Infinite Crisis settled things back for Vic and Richard, but I doubt it changed things for Shiva.
The Dixon/McDaniels series is actually kind of okay if you can pretend that the lead character isn't Richard Dragon, though I do like that it re-established his relationship with Ben Turner, who's become more a Suicide Squad character post-Crisis. I just wanna see those two hang out again.
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Date: 2010-05-02 02:31 am (UTC)--
There are two Richard Dragons.
The first, who's last name is actually Dragon, was trained by the Sensei along with Ben Turner, and adventured with him for a while, but retired into a life of contemplation when Ben disappeared. During this period, he trained Vic Sage, Helena Bertinelli, and Barbara Gordon. Eventually, he moved to Nanda Parbat.
As we know, Ben eventually broke free of his conditioning, and joined the Suicide Squad. After leaving the Squad, he lived a private life for a short while, until the day he met a young Richie Dragunov. The coincidence in names amused him, and he eventually trained this second Richard Dragon, only to lose him after an encounter with Shiva.
During the intervening years, various heroes (including some trained by the original Dragon) came to Dragunov to see what he had to teach. He also trained a few other martial artists, some of whom became villains.
Jump forward to the mini, which basically happens as written, sans the egregious MA mistakes (e.g. silat is NOT "Monkey style"). After being revived by Neron, Richie is probably wandering the US, seeking peace.
This theory works, basically, because there's about 10 years, real time, when Ben was unaccounted for. You can slot the Richie flashback in there. The one thing I'm not sure of is which Dragon showed up in Birds of Prey. He looks too old to be the second, but he's clean shaven. *shrug*
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Which means that if I ever get a chance to write my "Fists of the Dragon" miniseries, I can include Richie, along with Connor & Cass.
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Date: 2010-05-02 02:52 am (UTC)One thing I miss about their pre-Crisis story is that it was actually Richard who helped Ben break his conditioning. When Ben's backstory was explored in Suicide Squad, that story got left out. It wasn't even written by Denny, but I liked the idea that Richard didn't leave his best friend high and dry. It's the one thing that's really bugged me about how Ben was separated from Richard and Shiva post-Crisis.
And my personal canon is that Tot talked Vic into moving to Nanda Parbat after he was diagnosed with cancer, and he could've lived there the rest of his life there in relative peace, but there were too many questions left and Vic knew there'd have to be someone in his place to ask them. Richard was just visiting as a favor to his star pupil.
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Date: 2010-05-02 02:59 am (UTC)I like your canon idea, as well.
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Date: 2010-05-03 05:00 pm (UTC)and the perfect line was from renee, "ladies and gentlemen, Richard Dragon."
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