Barry Allen, Hypocrite

[shadowpsykie]

okay this image from Flash #2 part 2 of the dastardly death of the rouges(out this week) make Barry's appearance in Fall of Green Arrow make him look like an ass and a hypocrite....

link to the Source: http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/05/10/kick-off-the-week-with-the-flash-2/

Comments

[slim-summer.livejournal.com]

Don't really read Flash regularly (don't have the budget these days) and didn't touch Cry for Justice & Fall of the Green Arrow with a ten foot pole but how can it make Barry seem like a Hypocrite when he hasn't committed the crime yet?

[shadowpsykie]

because in Fall all he wanted to do was send Ollie to prison because he killed Prometheus, never mind that he destroy his city, countless lives, and his own grand daughter, "No you commit a crime, you must pay. you filty criminal. I never liked you."

The laws in the future are apparently different. all he had to do was go with them, see what the deal was and then defend himself if he had to. but here he's saying, "your laws don't matter, only mine do." to me that seems hypocritical

[aaron_bourque]

Not to mention there's only these guys' word that they're time cops and not time criminals, or even a strange dream Barry's having after bad sushi.

[nezchan]

All that aside, I really like the art here.

[shadowpsykie]

true true, the art is beautiful, love manipul

[savok]

Are these guys just our Rogues dressed up and fucking with Barry? Because that would be hilarious.

[catto]

I wish! That would be hilarious.

[tacobob]

Yeah. And someone would have to be filming this..

[theanswer]

Or the Justice League playing an elaborate prank.

[catto]

I'm still not sure about how I feel about Barry... I'm trying not to be too much of a biased Wally fanboy but...

[shadowpsykie]

I know what you mean, i don't dislike Barry per-se, its his portrayal so far, does not endear him to me.

[schala_kid]

Here here, I don't dislike Barry but I'm not too thrilled he took over the Flash title and they made Wally the second stringer.

I mean do we really need Barry? Wally is probably the most popular Flash now, heck even in JL: Crisis in Two Earths they used Wally (Well they don't really name the character but you can so tell it's Wally).

[icon_uk]

Not sure how it's hypocritical when the event hasn't happened yet.

I'd say he's more doubtful because they have presented no evidence, just outright accused him of a severe crime that is still in the, usually mutable, future.

[shadowpsykie]

i think they are trying to go the.... hmmm what was that movie with Tom Cruise and Mark Walhburg? grrrr... Maybe some things are not Immutable... i mean time is a bunch of wibbly wobbly, timey whimey... stuff...

anyways, he saw thier badges, if he's as commited to the law as he is supposed to be, he should want to defend himself. not you know run

[kagome654]

I don't know, I think hesitating to turn himself over to time travelers patterned after his current foes (who have dubious legal authority in this era at best) for a crime he has yet to commit (if he committed it at all) is understandable. He's not saying 'your laws don't matter' as much as ' I don't understand! '

[shadowpsykie]

then he should stay and talk instead of trying to run....

im just saying that his portrayal thus far, has been as "You should follow the law, i don't care about the circumstances, the law is the law."

[thehefner]

I think it's less "Barry is a hypocrite for how he behaved in FALL OF GA" and more "FALL OF GA is utter shit so let's not take any characterization from there seriously."

[theanswer]

Actually, his characterization in Fall of GA was spot on for someone who actually works in criminal investigations.

[crinos]

Am I the only one thinking "Minority report: super hero edition"?

[theanswer]

Minority Report and Young Guns.

[lencannon]

Barry's part in the Green Arrow debacle made me hate him forever, I think. I wasn't thrilled that he was replacing Wally but if that was the EXCITING stories we could expect now that he was back, you could count me out.

[shadowpsykie]

makes wally seem more level headed, because well, he was. he may have been a speedster, but he's bever really been rash or quick to judgements, at least as far as i remember... (unless you count those Titans flash backs recently)

[nezchan]

Given there's nothing but their word that the murder will ever happen, much less be his deliberate doing, these guys aren't really big in the credibility department.

[pyrotwilight]

But if you arrest him he won't commit the crime. If he then didn't and now couldn't do said crime (or at least the same way) what could arrest him for? Super-chronal-unpremeditated murder?

Damnit, where's Booster to give a hand?

[shadowpsykie]

see now, if Booster were involved maybe he could shed some light on this stuff :)

i mean youd think Booster would have dealt with something like this....

[kirke_novak]

I hope that chick from Mindnighter solo series (the one with HITLER) is a part of this :)

[kusonaga]

I'd hesitate to call Barry a hypocrite. After all, the one time he did actually commit murder, he gave himself up and went to trial for it.

[schala_kid]

Is it because of what he said to Ollie? Yeah that made me a little upset.

Also I don't remember Barry being so angry towards Ollie, ever since he came back he's been kind of mean to him. So what's the deal? Did Ollie piss on his cereal or did I miss something?

[hurricane-jam.livejournal.com]

Everybody likes to crap on Ollie. All the cool kids are doing it. ;)

[big_daddy_d]

From just the preview, this looks like it'll be a fun arc. I like that they refer to them by cases.

[darkknightjrk]

It's not hypocritical to me--because of the dubious officers as illustrated above me, and for the fact that this book is far better then that piece of horse manure, so I'm going to keep this and wipe Fall of GA out of my mind.

[zordboy]

Really, the best lesson to be learned here is that the "Fall of GA/Arsenal/Whoever" just needs to be ignored. And *then* you can continue discussion over the rest of the DCU. But it's one of those things that is such a piece of garbage, it's really for the best if we just file that away in the "didn't happen/bad dream" category and forget about it.

Lord knows, this time next year, DC will have forgotten about it, as well.