War of the Supermen #2 Preview

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[From: falseaesop]

I don't know why this was the first thought that came to my head, but I wonder if the DCU, or really any world with a lot of villainy really has support groups for the family members of supervillains.

"Hi, my name is Lois. My father's mad schemes granted my sister superpowers and in addition to trying to take over the world, they destroyed my workplace. Also... I was kidnapped."
"Hi Lois!"- group in unison.

[From: darkknightjrk]

I'd read the SHIT out of that. :D

I'm also imagining that the DCU has a reality show like Interventions for super-villains.

[From: thosefew]

How much could Cass say?

[From: kat8cha.livejournal.com]

Hell, they need support groups for the family of superHEROES.

[From: mullon]

...New Krypton's gone?

[From: midnightvoyager]

Yeah, dear old daddy that Superbitch is so keen on had it nuked.

[From: jaybee3]

I think it's pretty clear (from Lucy's thoughts from War of the Supermen #1) that she thinks her father's mad and wants to stop him. If you notice she carried Lois away from prying eyes who could report back to Sam (maybe the Planet is bugged).

[From: kat8cha.livejournal.com]

My first thought was 'THE WHOLE PLANET?!'

...and then I realized you meant The DAILY Planet. >>;;;

[From: jaybee3]

Oh yeah, they blew up - along with all but 10,000 of the entire population. Everyone, including children, who were not members of the military guild (and thus off-planet with Zod) are dead. It was a pre-emptive strike by Lane and Earth. I'm looking at this preview and I'm seeing Kara's justifiable anger at seeing both her parents killed by Lane's minions and now most of her species and I see Clark trying to stop her. But shouldn't he be angry too? Just a bit? I know he considers Earth home, but Earth just exterminated most of the survivors of his race including his aunt. Shouldn't he be rushing to Earth against Lane as well? *sigh* And of course going by solicits with Kara back super-heroing on Earth and joining the JLA and Lex (who planted the bomb that caused the genocide of the Kryptonians) will be back exchanging barbs with Lois and Clark as if none of this ever happened.

[From: mullon]

Did he turn it all into Kryptonite?

[From: saralakali]

Exactly my question. The New Kryptonians all have the same powers as Superman. They're invulnerable. The only way blowing up their planet would kill them is if their powers were removed around that same time. I only got the FCBD version of the story, so I'm thinking that I missed something.

[From: superfangirl1]

Well some of the floating rock flying around was glowing.



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[From: thokstar]

The bomb was based off of Reactron, who runs on Gold Kryptonite which removes Kryptonian powers for 15 minutes or so.

Or at least, that's how I'd try to explain it. Who knows what Robinson and friends will use?

[From: jlroberson]

I fear that Supe's place in this will be as the Uncle Tom of Krypton. I don't get the feeling they'll be exploring the dilemma in which he finds himself. And I doubt anyone from NK is going to care about his constant "be reasonable" crap because they will all remember he helped Brainiac get away, which is, I'm sorry, like if Simon Weisenthal had helped Hitler escape at the end of WW2. They have every reason to think of him as a traitor. From their POV, he is.

But one also has to consider: how Kryptonian does he think of himself as anyway? He only went in the first place to "keep an eye" on them, especially Zod. Which tends to go toward the idea that he never really thought of himself as one of them. He didn't seem that into actually embracing his heritage, one reason why in this whole storyline we were never shown much of any positive side to Kryptonian culture(a major missed opportunity).

When it comes right down to it, in light of this storyline, Supes is, in every way that's important, an Earthman with superpowers, just the same as the child of an immigrant from India would be American. He has as much to do with them as P. Diddy does with Ethiopia, which is to say he may share a genetic heritage but otherwise they have nothing to do with each other.

[From: schala_kid]

Yeah the Brainiac thing wasn't handled well, I can't believe that happened and it didn't really go with Geoff's Brainiac run and how he wanted to KILL Brainiac himself after Pa died. I'm willing to think that Kal didn't let Zod kill Brainiac because Brainy had plans for his ancestor and I think Kal much rather have the Legion deal with him than Zod (even though it does kind of feel like he robbed the people of Krypton from their vengeance).

But one also has to consider: how Kryptonian does he think of himself as anyway? He only went in the first place to "keep an eye" on them, especially Zod.

He was only keeping an eye on Zod, protecting them from him and trying to prevent an interplanetary incident. Also let's face it Zod is a power hungry manipulating bastard, you can debate him caring about Krypton and his people but there is no doubt he's using them for his own means and ends.

And Kal feeling Kryptonian? It's been obvious from the start he feels more like an Earthman than a Kryptonian, and in that sense he will always be an outsider to both the people of Earth and Krypton. That said it's not like he didn't try to understand and integrate himself with the people of New Krypton and abide by their traditions when he joined a guild (military because Zod wanted him close by) and lived with them for a year. But New Krypton had a classicist and a corrupt system and Kal was not going to just stay there doing nothing when the Labor guild was getting shit on.

He has as much to do with them as P. Diddy does with Ethiopia, which is to say he may share a genetic heritage but otherwise they have nothing to do with each other.

Um what? That's not even the same thing and does P. Diddy even have ancestors from Ethiopia? I think it would be like a child who was born in X country but has been living in Y country his whole life without cultural knowledge or influence from his place of birth besides a few text books.

[From: jlroberson]

>>Um what? That's not even the same thing and does P. Diddy even have ancestors from Ethiopia? I think it would be like a child who was born in X country but has been living in Y country his whole life without cultural knowledge or influence from his place of birth besides a few text books.

I'll go with that as well. I just pulled that example out of the air and probably put it poorly. I could just as easily have said he's as Kryptonian as I am Scottish. Just saying that it's an example of someone of a genetic/racial/cultural heritage who otherwise shares nothing in common with others of that same heritage.

I agree as far as Zod. But then we come to the idea of self-determination and whether the Kryptonians have a right to it, too. That gets mixed up in the equation. And Kal basically has done the same, in this context, of helping a Nazi escape justice after WW2. (and they were, many of them executed. By hanging) What is it most comparable to, in fact? Mussolini. This would be like if Superman had been there and not only rescued Mussolini from the crowd, but also handed him to someone else helping him escape. One can argue saving him is right, but what about the feelings of those Brainiac slaughtered? Kal lost ONE loved one to Brainiac. Kandor, or Krypton...we're talking something more like what was done to the Armenians.

[From: schala_kid]

Previous issue had Clark going through New Krypton and crying looking for Kara and when he finds her he holds her and they both cry together, until Kara sees the flag grabs it and flies off with Kal right behind her.

In here I'm guessing Clark is more concerned about Kara's well being more than what she's going to do, and who is to say he's not angry too? (Clark has always been a guy who bottles up anger just look at how he reacted to when his father died, he pictured himself beating Brainiac to death) He's probably pissed off at Lane but he's not going to go join in with Zod and attack them which going by the solicits and previews is probably what Kara is going to do.

And of course going by solicits with Kara back super-heroing on Earth and joining the JLA and Lex (who planted the bomb that caused the genocide of the Kryptonians) will be back exchanging barbs with Lois and Clark as if none of this ever happened.

Yeah this makes me angry too, but I think Lex is going to ONCE AGAIN evade this whole thing and no one can prove anything against him!

[From: zordboy]

Wow that sounds... really shitty.

*shrug*

Something else to strike off the "maybe I'll want to pick this up when it's TPBed" list.

[From: schala_kid]

What makes me a bit cranky is that all those stories about the Kryptonian guilds the whole cloning thing, their culture and their internal conflicts got shafted through a hole and didn't get a satisfying conclusion.

Also Tyr-Van was an interesting character, and him being related to Kal via Lara Lor-Van made for an interesting connection between the two characters, now we'll never see him again :(

[From: jaybee3]

I think that's my problem with it as well. To be honest, I never thought there was any way "New Krypton" was sticking around after this storyline - adding a planet of Superpeople to the DCU Solar System permanently is not something I ever saw DC doing. Yet I did think that the whole "World of New Krypton" (after all, they gave them a whole series that lasted a year!) and the explorations of Kryptonian laws, and the guilds and the tensions between them was very interesting and I did think that wherever New Krypton went (another solar system, Phantom Zone or into the future on Rokyn) this would be explored further whenever the "Super-Writers" wanted an excuse to send Kal, Kara or even Conner (or how about Powergirl spending time on New Krypton with the alt-universe doppleganger of her own mother!) out there for stories but no...instead we get more killing. And the only "guild" left are the 10,000 or so of the military that were with Zod (which do not apparently include children so yes Lane, Lex and Earth killed ALL the Kryptonian kids without exception- disgusting and everyone but Lane will get away with it - I think we all know it). In other words the last two years of getting involved in the New Krypton storyline has basically come to nothing. A waste.

If the story had larger ramifications I could live with it. But we already know by the solicits for just a few months from now that Kara will be back on the planet that killed her parents with little anger since she joins the JLA to protect it, that Lex and his presidential pardon will be free to star in Cornell's Action Comics as if he didn't just commit genocide along with Lane, that Lane will probably be the only villain punished for this from the Earth side and that Zod will be defeated and either killed or sent back to the Phantom Zone along with Chris, Thara and probably the other Kryptonians (which would mean basically that even if he dies Lane wins by default since he got what he wanted). Everything is so telegraphed from herein out IMO. The story is set-up (because we know the old/new Super status quo is coming when JMS starts) to have no surprises, which mean the payoff to three years since New Krypton started is apparently nil.