There was apparently an idea that Jason could have died of AIDS, rather than be murdered.
Odd, but true. From this lovely interview with Judd Winick at SequentialTarts.com here:http://www.sequentialtart.com/article.ph p?id=1711
I'd never heard of this at all, had any of you? Interesting, but obviously Jason dying of AIDS would never have allowed for Bruce to have the intense grief and pain over Jason's death, nor would it have made it the second worst thing to happen to him, after his parents' deaths.
Here's some choice bits:
Deciding to put my disturbingly encyclopedic knowledge of all things Jason Todd to good use, I ask Winick if he's ever heard about a storyline that was planned but never done, wherein Jason's death would have been from AIDS.
"I think it was a stunning, unbelievable thing. In the time of fears and epidemic, to have had a superhero have it, I was stunned and proud to hear about that. But they were not able to do it. I always forget to ask Denny [O'Neil] about that, about what happened.
"Denny's been great about me bringing Jason back. I was really worried about how he'd react, because the back of the Death in the Family trade, where Jason dies, there's a big quote on the back from Denny saying 'to bring him back would be a really sleazy stunt'. I got really nervous talking to him!
"But he said to me 'no, no, it would've been a sleazy stunt for us to do it, that's what I meant. If we'd brought him back six issues later.' It would have ruined their great story. But every generation has to work out their own ways to tell a great story."
"But, getting back to what we were talking about before, I think what they ended up doing with Jason's death was much better, for the story, than the AIDS storyline would have been. Because it wouldn't have been Batman's failure, for Robin to die of a terminal disease. Batman's failure is the Joker killing Robin in a warehouse."
And a page featuring one my favourite ships...

Mia and Jason... now you have one more thing in common...
Also, to me? This scene is so friggin' hot. Erotic asphyxiation...
suggested tags: char: robin/red hood/jason todd, creator: judd winick, char: speedy/mia dearden, title: green arrow
Odd, but true. From this lovely interview with Judd Winick at SequentialTarts.com here:http://www.sequentialtart.com/article.ph
I'd never heard of this at all, had any of you? Interesting, but obviously Jason dying of AIDS would never have allowed for Bruce to have the intense grief and pain over Jason's death, nor would it have made it the second worst thing to happen to him, after his parents' deaths.
Here's some choice bits:
Deciding to put my disturbingly encyclopedic knowledge of all things Jason Todd to good use, I ask Winick if he's ever heard about a storyline that was planned but never done, wherein Jason's death would have been from AIDS.
"I think it was a stunning, unbelievable thing. In the time of fears and epidemic, to have had a superhero have it, I was stunned and proud to hear about that. But they were not able to do it. I always forget to ask Denny [O'Neil] about that, about what happened.
"Denny's been great about me bringing Jason back. I was really worried about how he'd react, because the back of the Death in the Family trade, where Jason dies, there's a big quote on the back from Denny saying 'to bring him back would be a really sleazy stunt'. I got really nervous talking to him!
"But he said to me 'no, no, it would've been a sleazy stunt for us to do it, that's what I meant. If we'd brought him back six issues later.' It would have ruined their great story. But every generation has to work out their own ways to tell a great story."
"But, getting back to what we were talking about before, I think what they ended up doing with Jason's death was much better, for the story, than the AIDS storyline would have been. Because it wouldn't have been Batman's failure, for Robin to die of a terminal disease. Batman's failure is the Joker killing Robin in a warehouse."
And a page featuring one my favourite ships...

Mia and Jason... now you have one more thing in common...
Also, to me? This scene is so friggin' hot. Erotic asphyxiation...
suggested tags: char: robin/red hood/jason todd, creator: judd winick, char: speedy/mia dearden, title: green arrow

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Date: 2010-05-24 09:54 pm (UTC)Yeah, it definitely seems like Jason has a self-loathing, of which that could have been a contributing factor. I mean the Lazarus Pit definitely contributed to the insanity. But I recall Jason questioning whether he could have been a better person, if he had friends like Tim did.
There's a Robin back up story in Batman Annual 12, where Jason so wants to have friends that even if those friends are cheaters, he's OK with it. As long as he has friends.<./i> Sad, really.
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Date: 2010-05-24 09:58 pm (UTC)Poor Jason, destined to always be an outsider!
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Date: 2010-05-24 11:46 pm (UTC)Ha, yeah and one of those girls is totally hideous. I mean mullet, bad teeth, the works. I posted the full story on my LJ if you wanna take a look. It's benicio127.livejournal.com
I know. His black sheep status is a part of what's so endearing about him.