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goggle_kid ([personal profile] goggle_kid) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2010-06-07 02:20 am

More DC Race Fail

Dave Brothers Beat Me To This One

More of Ian Sattler at the the Heroes Con DC Nation panel.

"A serious topic came up about how characters who are minorities who happened to be legacy characters like Ryan Choi are killed off so their caucasian counterparts can return and how they feel like they are being cheated or sidelined out of their roles. Sattler took a more serious tone. "It's so hard for me to be on the other side because it's not our intention. There is a reason behind it all. We don't see it that way and strive very hard to have a diverse DCU. I mean, we have green, pink, and blue characters. We have the Great Ten out there and I have counter statistics, but I won't get into that. It's not how we perceived it. We get the same thing about how we treat our female characters."



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[personal profile] bluepard 2010-06-07 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a good thing that there are more green and blue and orange people than minorities. That is the point. See icon for a relevant series.
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[personal profile] bluepard 2010-06-07 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
Also, someone on that blog said "he’s just pointing out they don’t automatically make everyone white."

But if Brainy or whoever is turned human, they're always turned white. Even the greens and blues, etc, are white on the inside, I guess.
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[personal profile] bluefall 2010-06-07 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Rama was blue and Indian! It blew my mind. And Xavin is black in human form. Were any of the Majesdanes we met nonwhite?

And hey! Considering the fact that comic book sameface is so horrific and whitewashy that Mari Jiwe McCabe has Caucasian features 90% of the time, who knows? Korugarans could be pink-skinned Samoans instead of pink-skinned white folks and we'd never know the difference.

Well, I suppose we could tell by how many of them are still alive.
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[identity profile] stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
Runaways is actually published by Marvel.
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[personal profile] bluefall 2010-06-07 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
... yes, and?
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[personal profile] q99 2010-06-07 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
DC has the problem more than Marvel does.
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[identity profile] stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
It seemed weird that you'd bring up Xavin at all in a discussion of DC aliens, although I could probably have phrased that reaction better.
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[personal profile] bluefall 2010-06-07 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Marvel has the same problem - Beast is white, Mystique is white, Jazinda is white, Karolina is white, every one of the green gamma folks are white, every Kree I can think of is white, blue Atlanteans are white... The most recent crop of mutants are a help, but Marvel is no less a contributor to the long tradition of "differently colored white people" than DC is, so it didn't really occur to me that we'd be restricting the conversation to just the DC half of the phenomenon.
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[identity profile] stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Thinking about it, I wonder if it's not another facet of the problem with new characters in modern comics. Most of the major alien races in both universes were created in the sixties or seventies, IIRC, and none of the races created since then have really taken hold in the universe's space culture. The Kree are "Star Trek" blue people, the Skrulls are "Star Trek" forehead aliens, the Khunds are purple pro wrestlers, the Rannians and Thanagarians are basically human...

[personal profile] arilou_skiff 2010-06-07 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The kree actually used to be something of a segregation/apartheid analogy didn't they? What with the blue-skins oppressing the pink-skins.
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[personal profile] thehood 2010-06-09 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Execept most of the ones you've mentioned were white before turning blue or such. Beast was white before turning Blue.


There were also a few atlanteans who are black.

Not that i disagree mind you.
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[identity profile] minervasolo.livejournal.com 2010-06-07 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Drive-by icon love. The film seriously creeped my out!
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[personal profile] auryn 2010-06-07 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
Your icon wants to kill me.
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[personal profile] bluepard 2010-06-07 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, she wants to kill everyone. =D