scans_daily: More DC Race Fail

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@ 2010-06-07 02:20 am UTC

More DC Race Fail

Dave Brothers Beat Me To This One

More of Ian Sattler at the the Heroes Con DC Nation panel.

"A serious topic came up about how characters who are minorities who happened to be legacy characters like Ryan Choi are killed off so their caucasian counterparts can return and how they feel like they are being cheated or sidelined out of their roles. Sattler took a more serious tone. "It's so hard for me to be on the other side because it's not our intention. There is a reason behind it all. We don't see it that way and strive very hard to have a diverse DCU. I mean, we have green, pink, and blue characters. We have the Great Ten out there and I have counter statistics, but I won't get into that. It's not how we perceived it. We get the same thing about how we treat our female characters."

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	no subject stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 07:10 am UTC (link)
	The dude at 4th letter is named David Brothers. David Brooks is a conservative pundit. I get the feeling Ian Sattler was hired to deflect some ire from Didio, and for no other reason. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 75 comments) (Show 75 comments)

	no subject stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 07:12 am UTC (link)
	Also, as a hopeless Marvel fanboy, watching DC dig themselves deeper like this gives me a big old unfortunate grin. It is terrible but I cannot help it. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 64 comments) (Show 64 comments)

	no subject theanswer 2010-06-07 07:52 am UTC (link)
	Dig deeper? Blackest Night is making them beat Marvel. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 48 comments) (Show 48 comments)

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stolisomancer.insanejournal.com
2010-06-07 08:10 am UTC (link)

Oh, sure, the sales are what they are. I didn't know Blackest Night was quite that popular, but I suppose it shouldn't surprise me.

That said, they've been pissing more vocal comic book fans off every week for the last month or longer, and they just keep doing it. It's entertaining to me, because I have no emotional investment in the quality of DC's output.

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	no subject theanswer 2010-06-07 08:16 am UTC (link)
	And Marvel's not guilty of doing that? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 46 comments) (Show 46 comments)

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stolisomancer.insanejournal.com
2010-06-07 08:21 am UTC (link)

Quesada has a very different, arguably stupid idea of what Spider-Man should be (although OMD has produced some truly fine comics, particularly recently), and Bendis's loose grasp on continuity has aggrieved many nerds.

Marvel in general doesn't do two important things that DC is fucking up right now, though. One is that the characters, while predominantly white, aren't becoming more so as time goes on; the other is that they aren't giving the Silver Age a big sloppy blow job at the expense of everything else.

Marvel has a entire basket full of issues, but DC just seems so utterly clueless right now that it's hilarious. "Let's put out a five-issue miniseries where Roy Harper beats junkies to death with a dead cat! That's awesome!"

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	no subject theanswer 2010-06-07 08:31 am UTC (link)
	Utterly clueless? I think their sales seem to indicate otherwise. The Internet's outcry doesn't always match the consensus amongst fans. Sales often contradict what you read on the Internet. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

	no subject theanswer 2010-06-07 08:32 am UTC (link)
	Also, you're delusional if you think Marvel isn't guilty of poorly representing a people. They pretty much suck when it comes to writing women most of the time. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 36 comments) (Show 36 comments)

	no subject q99 2010-06-07 08:31 am UTC (link)
	I like DC's world more. I like DC's characters more. I buy more Marvel because I like their books more. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 14 comments) (Show 14 comments)

	no subject q99 2010-06-07 09:13 am UTC (link)
	I'm purely in the "more good books, the better" camp because I need reading material. Right now, neither's doing enough for my appetite. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject stolisomancer.insanejournal.com 2010-06-07 09:15 am UTC (link)
	Well, it's not like there will ever be enough good books. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject q99 2010-06-07 10:12 am UTC (link)
	Yea, but past a certain point it's "which of these good books should I follow?" rather than "is it worth going to the comic store this week at all?" (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject theanswer 2010-06-07 09:40 am UTC (link)
	You realize now they have more legacy characters they know what to do with... surely. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 9 comments) (Show 9 comments)

	no subject goggle_kid 2010-06-07 07:12 am UTC (link)
	Hastily corrected... My bad. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject lea_hazel 2010-06-07 07:33 am UTC (link)
	Wouldn't it be hilarious if pundits started opining on comics? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 8 comments) (Show 8 comments)

	no subject suzene 2010-06-07 07:42 am UTC (link)
	Oh please, no. Steve "I Hate Diversity" Blair has already given me my quota for "Do you not think before you open your mouth?!" for the year. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject skalja 2010-06-07 01:20 pm UTC (link)
	At least the backlash against him has gotten huge -- the rest of the local government is repudiating him as well, last I heard. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject suzene 2010-06-07 05:08 pm UTC (link)
	I appreciate that he's getting a spanking, but the circumstances and the original targets -- the mural and the kids working on it -- combined with all of the other race and gay-rights fail we've had the last few years down here kind of has me in a "Nuke us from orbit...please!" state of mind. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject skalja 2010-06-07 05:18 pm UTC (link)
	That's completely fair and totally understandable. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject lea_hazel 2010-06-07 04:55 pm UTC (link)
	I was expecting it to be something in Civil War. I mean. WWII vet Captain America as an outlaw? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject neuhallidae 2010-06-08 04:56 am UTC (link)
	Oh, did you see where Yahoo news was whining that movie!Cap wasn't a true American because a movie based in the European Theater is being ::gasp:: filmed in Europe, taking away precious economic boosts to LA? I was hoping that would puff up into something, just because it was so hilariously absurd. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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