benicio127: (Lois love)benicio127 ([personal profile] benicio127) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2010-06-10 02:20 pm UTC
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Cross-posted to No Scans_Daily.


First of all, apologies to [personal profile] nevermore999 for posting this from her LJ without asking first.

However, I really thought it was important enough to post.


Bill Willingham came in the panel, and ohmygod this really stupid guy bought up Steph, saying her death was poignant and he didn't think they should have bought her back because it was so important Batman kicked her to the curb and Leslie Thompkins (yes, he apparently liked THAT too) and Mom got all uncomfortable next to me...to Willingham's credit, he shut the guy down, saying the death was never his plan and he actually argued for Steph to live. Sattler said he wasn't around for it, and that the fans are really into Steph, and that he thinks it's important they redeemed Leslie Thompkins. Then Willingham had to ruin everything and say, and I swear to God this is a direct quote "I wanted to gun down those girls who kept asking about the (Steph's) memorial case."

My jaw just dropped open. I knew from interviews and shit that Willingham was an asshole- and I'm sorry, he is, for mocking people at panels, and mocking men for daring to cry over a comic book death- but that is just a creepy as fuck thing to say. I raised my hand and I wanted to say "Willingham, you're an asshole" but instead I just told him a) I hated Stephanie's death and b) You shouldn't want to gun people down for being passionate about a character.

Backpedaling time! No, see, those silly girls were just distracting from important issues at panels by asking the same question over and over again, andandand they just don't understanf how the comics industry works and then, I swear to god, he word for word said the "being hated is almost as good" quote. He DID. He and Sattler telled me that when fans hate a story, it's almost as good as if they love it, because at least they care.




So let me just lift the Internet veil for a minute. I am/was a journalist and I used to be a crime/court reporter. In my four years working for three different Canadian newspapers, I reported on a lot of incidents of violence against women. One of those was a four-part series on the high rate of domestic violence in a small community, for which I was nominated for a National Newspaper Award. So trust me when I say I have seen what violence against women does and how important a topic like this is to me.
So yeah, this comment disturbs me on many levels. It is truly an indefensible comment and the fact that it was made in a public venue with little discourse is disturbing. Serious props to [personal profile] nevermore999 for standing up to Willingham and pointing out his incredibly horrific and misogynistic comment. Young impressionable boys buy these comics and that writers who write them actually think these things and then say them outloud in a public venue is shocking to say the very least.





 


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nefrekeptah: (awesome)

Re: complaints


[personal profile] nefrekeptah
2010-06-11 01:10 am UTC (link)
Uh, really, yes.

No, he didn't get "justifiably criticized." He didn't get criticized at all - he got berated by hundreds of fans who kept demanding a memorial for Steph, something he wasn't in a position to do anything about. Anyone who is being berated about something they can't do anything about is perfectly in their right to be annoyed about those people.

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kingrockwell: cool times; a man in a black shirt places a blue fedora on his head while throwing a jacket over his shoulder. (Ferdinand)

Re: complaints


[personal profile] kingrockwell
2010-06-11 01:19 am UTC (link)
There are a lot of people in jobs where they're in no position to handle the complaints they get from customers. Yes, not just fans, these people are also customers! His job relies on their money. No matter how unjustified you think their "whining" might've been (and no, they were perfectly justified in calling out a scene in which a teenage girl was killed in a sexualized manner and for calling that the character got some degree of acknowledgement and respect afterward), when you are dealing with customers, you grin and bear it. If you can do nothing else, you refer it to someone who can.

This is basic customer service, and creator entitlement does not put on above it.

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skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (dc: dinah scream)

Re: complaints


[personal profile] skalja
2010-06-11 02:06 am UTC (link)
You forgot the part where her murderer got an action figure made with the rather phallic murder weapon.

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Re: complaints


[personal profile] cleome45
2010-06-11 07:43 am UTC (link)
Yeah, exactly.

Not to mention that even before the internet, there were these things in the job world called records. If you trip up badly enough on the job, somebody makes a note of it. Whether it's fair or not, your trip-ups will be on record and follow you for the rest of your career, maybe.

Welcome to the real world, Bill.

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