In an earlier BIRDS OF PREY post, we started discussing Bat-dickery and the death of Vesper Fairchild. Mainly how Oracle thought Bruce Wayne *had* killed Vesper Fairchild with a gun for no apparent reason. So, let's go back to BATMAN #600 where Batman and the Bat-family discuss Bruce Wayne getting accused of murder. As it's a 32 page story, I'm posting 12 pages.
First, Batman returns to his stately manor, even though the cops figure the criminal never returns to the scene of the crime.

Ah, Jason, you adorable sociopath. (We'll discuss DC's "You liked Jason Todd? What the $@#$@ is the matter with you?" attitude later.)

Yes, because who cares about Cassandra and what she knows? At all?


Sheesh, first he tugs on Batman's cape then he asks "Hey, are you guilty of cold blooded murder or not?" Are we sure Tim's the genius of the group?

"Yes, we want to make sure you didn't kill someone with a gun."
I can understand Batman getting upset over the gang thinking he might be guilty... since Batman gets upset over everything.
It's a little like the Mel Gibson movie "The Man Without Face."
McLeod: Think Norstad, reason. Have I ever abused you? Did I ever lay a hand on you of anything but friendship on you? Could I? Could you imagine me ever doing so? And what about the past?
Chuck Norstadt: Just tell me you didn't do it, I'll believe you.
McLeod: No, no sir! I didn't spend all summer so you could cheat on this question.
(Of course, in the original book, McLeod *is* a child molester, but let's ignore that.)

Oh, that. Well, the Scary Bat-God that lives in Bruce Wayne's head told him to.
Seriously.
In BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHTS #24.
Go ahead, read the issue if you don't believe me.

We learn later the disk was tampered by David Cain. Someone on the board said Vesper never figured it out, while I know I read somewhere that she did.
Barbara got the original disk in a BIRDS OF PREY issue, with Dinah asking "What's so important about this Bruce Wayne guy?" Must have been before one of those reality punches.

*That's* all he can say?
I've posted some of the following pages before. Even though Ed Brubaker wrote this issue, Greg Rucka said in on the TPBs that part of the purpose of the "Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive" was to take the "There is no Bruce Wayne" idea and show that it's a fallacy.


Oh, there is no Bruce Wayne. Well then, what does it matter?
I cut the pages where Batman and Nightwing fight and Jason's memorial case gets smashed. After all, Jason's memorial case ALWAYS got smashed. SHORTPACKED did a joke about it.
http://shortpacked.com/comics-archive/2 006-07-31-jasontodd.png
Anyway, here's the ending of the issue.


"And as the last remnants of this mask fade away... I feel something I haven't felt nearly all my life. I feel free."
A lot of that makes a sad kind of sense.
Of course, it also seems to say Batman can only be happy if he's beating the crap out of criminals. Which is just disturbing.
Suggested tags: char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, char: batgirl/cassandra cain, char: batman/bruce wayne, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, char: robin/red robin/tim drake, creator: ed brubaker, creator: scott mcdaniel, title: batman
First, Batman returns to his stately manor, even though the cops figure the criminal never returns to the scene of the crime.
Ah, Jason, you adorable sociopath. (We'll discuss DC's "You liked Jason Todd? What the $@#$@ is the matter with you?" attitude later.)
Yes, because who cares about Cassandra and what she knows? At all?
Sheesh, first he tugs on Batman's cape then he asks "Hey, are you guilty of cold blooded murder or not?" Are we sure Tim's the genius of the group?
"Yes, we want to make sure you didn't kill someone with a gun."
I can understand Batman getting upset over the gang thinking he might be guilty... since Batman gets upset over everything.
It's a little like the Mel Gibson movie "The Man Without Face."
McLeod: Think Norstad, reason. Have I ever abused you? Did I ever lay a hand on you of anything but friendship on you? Could I? Could you imagine me ever doing so? And what about the past?
Chuck Norstadt: Just tell me you didn't do it, I'll believe you.
McLeod: No, no sir! I didn't spend all summer so you could cheat on this question.
(Of course, in the original book, McLeod *is* a child molester, but let's ignore that.)
Oh, that. Well, the Scary Bat-God that lives in Bruce Wayne's head told him to.
Seriously.
In BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHTS #24.
Go ahead, read the issue if you don't believe me.
We learn later the disk was tampered by David Cain. Someone on the board said Vesper never figured it out, while I know I read somewhere that she did.
Barbara got the original disk in a BIRDS OF PREY issue, with Dinah asking "What's so important about this Bruce Wayne guy?" Must have been before one of those reality punches.
*That's* all he can say?
I've posted some of the following pages before. Even though Ed Brubaker wrote this issue, Greg Rucka said in on the TPBs that part of the purpose of the "Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive" was to take the "There is no Bruce Wayne" idea and show that it's a fallacy.
Oh, there is no Bruce Wayne. Well then, what does it matter?
I cut the pages where Batman and Nightwing fight and Jason's memorial case gets smashed. After all, Jason's memorial case ALWAYS got smashed. SHORTPACKED did a joke about it.
http://shortpacked.com/comics-archive/2
Anyway, here's the ending of the issue.
"And as the last remnants of this mask fade away... I feel something I haven't felt nearly all my life. I feel free."
A lot of that makes a sad kind of sense.
Of course, it also seems to say Batman can only be happy if he's beating the crap out of criminals. Which is just disturbing.
Suggested tags: char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, char: batgirl/cassandra cain, char: batman/bruce wayne, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, char: robin/red robin/tim drake, creator: ed brubaker, creator: scott mcdaniel, title: batman

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Date: 2010-06-20 07:01 am (UTC)More so than when Bruce later says "I was always Bruce Wayne, I just never realized it" or somesuch later.
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Date: 2010-06-20 07:16 am (UTC)Meanwhile, Morrison and Dini have been doing NOW what Brubaker/Rucka tried to do back then but are doing it more successfully - proving that Bruce Wayne does exist and is more than a mask. The question is will it take with DC Editorial this time?
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Date: 2010-06-20 11:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-20 06:49 pm (UTC)Some of that was covered in the BATMAN FAMILY miniseries. The board of directors of WE were considering voting Bruce out, figuring "You let Lucius Fox handle most of the day to day stuff anyway, so what's it matter? Plus there's the whole fleeing the country after getting arrested for murder" I posted it a while back.
http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/95382
Sasha was technically "dead" for all the world knew and Vesper has basically never been mentioned again.
Sasha said "Poor Vesper" while talking to Bruce, once she realized Bruce had *let* her find out her was Batman.
I don't know *that* much about Vesper. She did stay in Gotham during No Man's Land to provide "Radio Free Gotham" or something.
I believe (or choose to believe) that Vesper's death affected Cassandra Cain a LOT. She found out part of David Cain's reasons for killer Vesper was to see if Batman was "worthy" of raising Cassandra.
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Date: 2010-06-20 07:17 pm (UTC)As for Vesper, she was one of those characters who was brought back out of mothballs just so she could be killed for this storyline (I think either Rucka or Brubaker said as much) so I didn't really feel anything at her death. And I'm really curious if she really WOULD have told the world Bruce Wayne=Batman, maybe it's only me but Bruce's exes who are "in the know" seem to be very loyal to him (Selina, Talia, Silver, even Vicki Vale now who has figured out the "secret" is still holding on to it - and she's a reporter with the biggest scoop of her career!)
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Date: 2010-06-20 07:34 am (UTC)I liked the set-up but it floundered midway through - for instance there's no way in heck, even the corrupt GCPD charges Bruce Wayne with murder 1 within hours of being questioning and before his lawyer arrived and the charges against Sasha were even more flimsy. The fact the the case was led by maybe the 3 most honest cops in Gotham at the time (Gordon being retired), Maggie Sawyer, Crispus Allen and Renee Montoya did nothing to help their reputation, since when the truth came out their supposed "air-tight" case fell apart like sand (heck, even Renee was having doubts about Wayne's guilt AFTER they sent him to prison but she and Crispus never bothered to do any more detective legwork once Bruce was charged). If Bruce HAD gone to trial his lawyer (a tough female lawyer who had didn't get enough panel time) IMO would have shredded the D.A.'s case - a point the now long-gone D.A. of the time must have known since he offered to drop ALL charges against Sasha if she would turn on Bruce.
Instead of an interesting court-room drama we get the heights of Bat-Dickery maybe ever in continuity with Bruce acting like the most unfeeling unlikable jerk ever and it didn't help that we have people like Babs (and I stick with her because at this point in time Tim was relatively new as Robin in comic time and Cass was literally a newbie but Babs had known Bruce since SHE was a teen) questioning whether a man who had witnessed his parents being gunned down in cold blood would actually in-turn gun down his ex-girlfriend (in such an obvious and overt way) even though Bruce just told her he didn't think Vesper knew who he was (which gets out the motive) and Babs knew his aversion to guns (buying one is not the same as using one) and his no-kill rule. But to make this story work everybody in the Bat-Crew had to act like they were in some melodrama of some kind.
Of course since during this period we were supposed to also believe that Black Canary didn't know who this "Bruce Wayne" guy was, maybe we can dismiss all of M/F as discontinuity thanks to a Superboy-Prime punch of some kind.
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Date: 2010-06-20 08:53 am (UTC)It's still a very flawed storyline, though, for all your reasons and more - and dammit, I liked Vesper.
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Date: 2010-06-20 10:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-20 11:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-20 11:51 am (UTC)This was the first or second story with Babs that I've read. One of the reasons why I'm not a fan of her, or Tim.
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Date: 2010-06-20 12:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-20 08:52 pm (UTC)What made Vesper likable? Staying in Gotham during No Man's Land as a voice on the radio is very brave. Was is there more to her character than that?
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Date: 2010-06-20 08:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-21 12:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-20 11:34 am (UTC)The irony is that this version of Bruce would probably be the most boring lay ever.
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Date: 2010-06-20 02:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-20 07:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-20 04:54 pm (UTC)Mills and Boontestosteronific, chest-thumping sort of way, of course. (And how much do I want to read the rest of those notes? "November 12: met Bruce for lunch. When he was eating his ham sandwich and got mustard on his face, I knew he was Batman. Only the Dark Knight would be so heedless of his condiments that close to those lips like chiseled velvet, soft yet firm.")no subject
Date: 2010-06-20 07:05 pm (UTC)Also: chiseled velvet? *sporfle*
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Date: 2010-06-21 11:35 am (UTC)http://media.photobucket.com/image/Bruc
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Date: 2010-06-21 02:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-22 01:26 pm (UTC)Voice in head: but he ended up all alone! Because he pushed everyone away!
Me: Not now!
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Date: 2010-06-20 11:29 pm (UTC)