My final contribution to One Perfect Moment week, from New Mutants #8
Since his enforced resurrection by Selene and Eli Bard, Doug Ramsey, alone of all the technorganic bespelled zombies, has retained some sense of self awareness (probably due to his familiarity with technorganic computer code), but since he is under the control of another, he has no chance to provide his own context on the world and has had to watch himself attempt to kill his old team-mates. He keeps asking "What language am I?" but no one can give him a proper answer.
Warlock has faith in his selfsoufriendcypherdoug though, and is determined to bring him back to the land of the living, and has just rescued him whilst taking out the equally resurrected Hellions. Now he knows what he must do...

The soulswords primary power is that it will do no harm to ordinary matter, but will slice through magic like.. well a sword, shredding spells like tissue paper.
The next page has some semi-Freudian imagery which Wertham would probably have hated... So it's all good!


And thus, thanks to the power of a friendship that Doug was actually the one to teach Warlock about years before, Warlock brings his best friend back to himself.
(Oh, and if anyone is interested, clicking on the images will take you to pages on my CAF site, where the original inked pages are up, I HAD to get them when I saw they were available :) )
Since his enforced resurrection by Selene and Eli Bard, Doug Ramsey, alone of all the technorganic bespelled zombies, has retained some sense of self awareness (probably due to his familiarity with technorganic computer code), but since he is under the control of another, he has no chance to provide his own context on the world and has had to watch himself attempt to kill his old team-mates. He keeps asking "What language am I?" but no one can give him a proper answer.
Warlock has faith in his selfsoufriendcypherdoug though, and is determined to bring him back to the land of the living, and has just rescued him whilst taking out the equally resurrected Hellions. Now he knows what he must do...
The soulswords primary power is that it will do no harm to ordinary matter, but will slice through magic like.. well a sword, shredding spells like tissue paper.
The next page has some semi-Freudian imagery which Wertham would probably have hated... So it's all good!
And thus, thanks to the power of a friendship that Doug was actually the one to teach Warlock about years before, Warlock brings his best friend back to himself.
(Oh, and if anyone is interested, clicking on the images will take you to pages on my CAF site, where the original inked pages are up, I HAD to get them when I saw they were available :) )

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Date: 2010-08-02 01:40 am (UTC)Doug was salvageable because he had an affinity with computer codes and the TO virus, and Warlock had always retained a complete copy of Doug's memories stored within himself from their old Douglock merges and which he downloaded into Doug earlier in the story, not enough to break the spell, but a help in restoring Doug.
As Karma pointed out during the story when she tried possessing them, underneath the shell of control that Selene had imposed, all the other Necros were completely and irrevocably insane, simply freeing them from the control spell wouldn't have helped.
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Date: 2010-08-02 03:20 am (UTC)"Necrosha" was such a damn tease. What X-Fan doesn't have one (or more) of their personal favorites in the comic grave?
Thanks for the info, I have been saving up for the big ole Hardcover.
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Date: 2010-08-02 06:57 am (UTC)Yup! See icon! :D
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Date: 2010-08-02 05:08 am (UTC)And I don't think Destiny was ever under Selene's control.
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Date: 2010-08-02 11:51 am (UTC)They needed to have some level of rationality to them to make them useful, and the default setting was in there. So whilst the Hellions appearred to be coherent as individuals (bitching and snarking as was tsome of their wont), that was a thin layer over an ocean of screaming madness. Which makes Thunderbird and Risque's efforts all the more impressive, but it's not likely to have been able to last long term. Doug's mind could be could be restored because there was a work copy to restore to him.
Destiny didn't exactly live in the here and now, so I can see her being an odd case at the best of times.
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Date: 2010-08-02 07:27 pm (UTC)This was the same T/O virus that the Purifiers used to resurrect William Stryker, Bolivar Trask, Steven Lang, Cameron Hodge and Graydon Creed. And I don't recall "screaming madness" ever being used to describe them. Though to be fair none of them were great examples of sanity to begin with. They all had their own personalities, but they were all under Bastion's control.
iirc Magik only used her soul sword on Beef and Bevatron, who said that they liked working for Selene. If Illyana had used her magic killing sword on anyone already resisting Selene, it may have freed them from her influence. That way they wouldn't have been devoured by Selene. They'd probably be under Bastion's control instead but they'd have survived a little longer. And then Doug could have talked their T/O viruses into submission like he did his own.
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Date: 2010-08-02 07:58 pm (UTC)I was basing the insanity bit on Xian's comment when trying to control Rouletter and that "Their minds sound like a screaming modem. Whatever these things are, their minds are insane." So I conflated the terms, but the underlying theme is there, when a telepath reads somebodies mind as insane, I tend to take them at their word.
At least couple of the ones you mention had been members of the Phalanx IIRC, maybe that helped them?
Yeah, Beef and Bevatron seemed like a couple of bullies so not the best choices there. Ilyanna also used it on Tarot who simply sort of sat there, but her live/dead status appears to be erratic at best, since last I saw, she was already back to being alive under her own steam and via her own methods.
Yeah, maybe a few more restorations would have been worth a shot.