nezchan: For food posts (le croissant)nezchan ([personal profile] nezchan) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2010-08-17 05:21 pm UTC
Entry tags:char: fantasio, creator: janry, creator: jean david morvan, creator: jije, creator: jose-luis munuera, creator: tome, series: 30 days of scans, title: spirou
Not a big surprise that my favourite male character is a lanky, prematurely balding blonde with a predilection for redheads and a knack for getting himself in and out of trouble with style, if not grace.



From his somewhat questionable beginnings as a comic relief character...



He fairly quickly developed into something more than a simple foil for the series' star, Spirou. Since the title character of the spinoff series Gaston Lagaffe took over the buffoon part, Fantasio's role became more of the long-suffering straight man. But not entirely so, developing into an appealing blend of Man of Adventure and a necessary dash of irreverence and sheer goofiness, a much more fitting companion to the ready-for-action Spirou.

A couple of choice moments for your indulgence:

Fantasio encounters Japanese fixtures:



Fantasio shows the ladies some smooth moves:


(his idea of a pick-up line is "I don't live with my parents any more")

Fantasio goes through some minor changes, thanks to an invention of Champignac's:


(a man must have priorities, in the end)

Fantasio demonstrating improper usage of office furniture under the influence:



And finally, a follow up to the One Perfect Moment I posted before, where we believed that Spip had drowned during an attack of Ms. Flanners' robots:



What's not to love? Besides, he can go en pointe like a pro!


(seriously, what straight man does that reflexively, anyway?)

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[personal profile] icon_uk
2010-08-18 12:49 am UTC (link)
A little odd surely, that someone from France has difficulty with the concept of a bidet?

And that IS a very cute moment with Spip! :)

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[personal profile] nezchan
2010-08-18 01:28 am UTC (link)
I think it's less a problem with the bidet itself, as the less than intuitive controls that brought the bidet into play.

Fantasio, for all his oddness, is a pretty cosmopolitan fellow. And being a friend of Champignac's, this is hardly the worst abuse he's suffered.

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[personal profile] skjam
2010-08-18 02:55 am UTC (link)
It looks to me like the "bidet" button is *next* to the one Fantasio hit.

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[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
2010-08-18 08:46 am UTC (link)
I don't blame the guy; I'D be confused if I ran across something like that. A toilet with buttons? Three of them? The hell? I have never in my entire life seen a toilet like that. Every toilet I have ever encountered has had just one, very simple switch/knob/chain on it - a toilet with a control panel is just unnerving. I'd expect it to blast off.
And anyone who can achieve a pose like that on a speeding office chair can't be all THAT drunk. I'm not sure I could do it.

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[personal profile] nezchan
2010-08-18 11:58 am UTC (link)
He's a man of great talent.

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[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
2010-08-18 12:01 pm UTC (link)
Indeed he is.

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[personal profile] arilou_skiff
2010-08-18 09:53 am UTC (link)
Spirou, when at it's best, does the BEST kinetic humour i the world.

The way stuff *feels* like it moves is fantastic.

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[personal profile] nezchan
2010-08-18 11:57 am UTC (link)
That's one of the big reason I adore the series. Kinetic action in comics is a big draw to me, and to be honest a lot of superhero comics don't have a lot of it. Dynamic, yes, but not necessarily kinetic.

Spirou, and especially Fantasio, are creatures of motion, and that to me is one of the best things out there.

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[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
2010-08-18 12:25 pm UTC (link)
That seems to be a feature of a lot of European comics - 'Tintin' has it as well. The two series are very different, of course - 'Tintin' doesn't have the same cartoony nature as the 'Spirou' series; it's much more realistic in style - but there is a LOT of action in it, a lot of pratfalls and things falling and blowing up and flying all over the place and punches being thrown and whatnot, and it all feels believable as ACTION, as movement. There's a quality to the body language and so forth that communicates the fact that these characters are actually MOVING, that these rocks are actually falling, that if you could take this panel and put it in the real world and click 'play', as it were, you would suddenly see a wild blur of motion. It may simply be something inherent in the European style - you don't see it very often in American comics.

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[personal profile] nezchan
2010-08-18 01:08 pm UTC (link)
Thing about a lot of the modern Franco-Belgian work is the debt it owes to the Marcinelle school of drawing from the 40's, where action and motion were primary. Tintin, on the other hand, was much stiffer, being part of the ligne claire school, which was largely concerned with a more design-oriented type of storytelling.

These days, there's way more crossover in the styles than there used to be, but that urge toward motion still stands. Here's what could probably be one of the great uses of motion, and above all observation of real-life motion I can think of:

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[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
2010-08-18 09:35 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure I agree with that. I'm not saying that this isn't a good illustration of just how one moves when pedaling a bike up a steep hill, but to my way of thinking, the true challenge when drawing movement is how to capture things moving FAST. Things moving slowly are generally speaking much easier to draw - walking, for instance; anyone can draw someone walking. Speed things up, though - have the person striding back and forth, waving his hands, running around, bouncing off the walls - and things immediately become much more complicated to draw. I know; I've tried. There is, as you put it earlier, a kinetic energy to quick movement that is difficult to capture properly, for the simple reason that it IS so quick, and is often over in a second or less - if you were actually watching it in real life, you'd just see a blur. It is the responsibility of the artist to slow the action down enough to draw it while still giving the impression that this WOULD be a blur of motion in real life, and that's a fairly tricky thing to do. For this reason, I don't find the above all that impressive in terms of capturing movement. It's an impressively accurate portrayal of a guy riding a bike uphill, certainly, and of the physical effort involved, but of motion? Not so much.

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[personal profile] nezchan
2010-08-19 12:01 am UTC (link)
"...walking, for instance; anyone can draw someone walking."

As someone who has spent the past several weeks trying to master drawing people walking, that hit me in a pretty painful place, I must say.

Personally, I find it rare to find an artist who can put that sort of kinetic effort that you can feel in that bike scene. The feeling of someone fighting for balance, the strain of the legs as he attempts to get that next rotation of the pedals, the whole feeling of motion that might not be fast, but it's unquestionably there, I don't see a lot of artists around at the moment who can really pull that off convincingly.

Fast motions aren't really that different from slower, more deliberate ones, honestly. We've had slow-motion reference material for generations now. What matters is understanding motion itself.

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[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
2010-08-19 01:32 am UTC (link)
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anyone can draw walking WELL, or realistically. Any physical movement is a fairly complex thing - just raising your hand and twiddling your fingers involves any number of small motions - and obviously something like walking, which involves the whole body, is going to be tricky to capture properly if you're aiming for a sense of realism. Trust me, I'm not denigrating your efforts - I understand that this stuff is difficult - I just meant that the basics of walking are fairly easy to capture if you're going for a very simple representation of them. For instance, I can sketch a stick figure walking along, and show it to someone else, and most people will guess that the stick figure is supposed to be walking - this doesn't mean that I could easily reproduce the effect in a more realistic drawing. That takes skill and practice.
If you're talking about convincingly portraying EFFORT, then yes, I agree with you, but physical effort and movement are not necessarily the same thing. There are statues of athletes and so forth that portray physical effort very convincingly, but obviously they're not moving, and there are no action lines or whatnot to help give the impression of movement - one is meant to infer. Often the greatest physical effort involves barely any motion at all - I can think of occasions when I've had to push a heavily laden wheelbarrow up a hill, and I've had to strain every muscle in my body to get it to the top, but for long moments, I wasn't really moving - I was fighting TO move, hence the effort. Someone pedaling a bicycle up a steep slope has a similar problem. Obviously, there are more motions involved in doing that than in pushing a wheelbarrow, but the basics are the same - it's the EFFORT portrayed that counts, the straining of the muscles, the sweating of the brow, that makes it convincing, to me, at least.
Really, though, this is a matter of opinion to some degree - everybody has different priorities when it comes to art. I remember some hotshot artist - I think it was Jim Lee or someone - who came up with a character design for a video game and had to draw a turnaround of it, only to discover, to his surprise, that his art style did not actually translate into three dimensions. He'd been a pro artist for years and never realized this - he did good art, it just wasn't three-dimensional art, and he had to adjust his style to do the turnaround properly.

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