*Main Post* 30 Days of Scans! Day 17: Favourite legacy hero (Hero that took on a previous hero's id)

[benicio127]

I was really waffling between Cass Cain, Steph Brown and Bart Allen on this one...

Soooooo



First, Steph Brown, who took on the Robin title and the Batgirl title.







And Cassandra Cain, who got Babs' OK to take on the Batgirl title.



I wish Cass and Steph could share the Batgirl role. :'(


And the awesomely hilarious Bart Allen who is now a Flash!




So S_D'ers, who's yours?

suggested tags: char: spoiler/robin/batgirl/steph brown, char: batgirl/cass cain, char: impulse/kid flash/bart allen, char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, series: 30 days of scans

Comments

[retro_nouveau]

This one's kinda tough because I like people, and the ID doesn't really matter to me.

So I'll exclude Barry Allen since he didn't take over for Jay Garrick, really. I'll also exclude the Lanterns because they're all one big happy corps. I'll also exclude Dick, because Bruce is coming back. So...

Stephanie Brown (from Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain)

2. Ted Kord (from Dan Garrett), 3. Terry McGinnis (from Bruce Wayne), 4. Cassandra Cain (from Barbara Gordon), 5. Dan Dreiberg (from Hollis Mason), 6. Tim Drake (from Jason Todd), 7. Jason Todd (from Dick Grayson), 8. Wally West (from Barry Allen), 9. Holly Robinson (from Selina Kyle), 10. Jaime Reyes (from Ted Kord)

[darklorelei]

Jaime, no contest.

[curlyjo1]

Stargirl, (from Sylvester Pemberton and Jack Knight)

This is really one where DC has far more than Marvel. Until lately, Marvel hasn't really done the legacy hero thing.

[perletwo]

This is a tough one for a dc fan but i gotta go with jaime here. Unlike the batkids who i love, jaime's out there on his own without the benefit of mentoring by any of his predecessors but the legacy still matters to him.

[morgana006]

Most of my favorite characters are legacy heroes.

But yeah, I'm going to have to go with Jaime Reyes.

WWTKD? Indeed!

[kamino_neko]

I'm going to go with a dark horse candidate (as opposed to a Dark Horse candidate, since there's nobody what fits in what I know of DH's output, heh), and choose Arthur Joseph Curry, the second Aquaman.

[swatkat]

Cass and Steph tied. *g*

[goblinthebamf]

how many Marvel legacies are there?

Ben Reilly/Spider-Man and a few women who have taken the title Spider-Woman or Spider-Girl, but at least a couple of those women didn't take the title out of any relationship to each other or to Spider-Man... various successors to Steve Rogers' titles... I'm at a loss for others, I admit.

expanded to a broader definition, there are a lot of mentor/mentee relationships where someone takes a complimentary name and/or look to their mentor (various holders of Mjolnir, like Beta Ray Bill) and a lot of new generations of teams (X-Men, Avengers, New Mutants, Young Avengers)... but legacy characters of people who take both the exact name and at least the general look of someone who has retired or fallen in the Marvelverse?

I'll add the Arrow family, particularly Mia Dearden.

[yaseen101]

I think my choices are obvious.................

[bittercupojoe]

The modern Mr. Terrific, Michael Holt.

[grazzt]

Does it count if the previous hero had no real published adventures?

If that's the case, I pick Promethea.

[ebailey140]

Stephanie Brown is my favorite, right now. I'm loving her as Batgirl. Of course, Barbara (who I also loved as Batgirl) is actually a Legacy character, too, since she wasn't actually the first Batgirl. We just always think of her as the first.

Same with Ted, my favorite Blue Beetle.

Wally West and Tim Drake are other favorites, having taken ownership of their roles.

Does Dick as Nightwing count?

A matter of race.

[nefrekeptah]

I know a lot of people here like Stephenie, but is anyone bothered by the fact that Cass, an Asian woman, was replaced by a white girl? Isn't that another example of DC knocking off it's minority superheroes and replacing them with often blue-eyed, blond haired Aryans?

[star_of_airdrie]

Oh, so many Legacies, so little time...

1. I think Dick as the Bat would be fine, with the added fun of Bruce coming back - even with the Batman Inc arc, it's gonna be awkward I'd imagine.

2. Cass Cain from Babs - she has such a cool and gripping backstory and evolution into the role.

3. Steph from Cass - fun with BTVS snarkiness and appeal

4. Tim from Jason - pre-Crisis approach but ending in a love story with Kon because the world needs it!

5. Jaime from Ted - last but not least

[aeolos_sakya]

How come nobody has mentioned Wally West?
He's been an awesome Flash.

There are also Kyle Rayner, Jaime Rayes, Steph, Cass, Bart, Tim Drake, and probably a few more I can't remember.

[newnumber6]

Cass Cain for me.

I don't know what it is, she really shouldn't work, but she drew me in, and, as silly as it is, I loved the body-language/fighting-as-her-only-language conceit, and even once that was gone, that she actually had trouble with some of the simplest things, like reading, while she was an all-around ass-kicker in fighting. Of course, thanks to He Who Will Not Be Named, most of what was cool about her is gone, but I remain hopeful that somebody will just decide to do with his run what he did with the rest of Cain's history - completely ignore it.

And even going beyond the character herself... I love the costume. It's my absolute favorite batcostume. Even when Huntress was wearing it. I don't know, it's just so spooky and cool. She actually looks like she could inspire some kind of fear in Gotham criminals, whereas the other Batgirls (and Nightwing and Robin, and even Batman himself except at his most stylized) should really inspire laughter (until they've gotten their asses kicked a few times).

Don't get me wrong, I love Steph too... but I love her as Spoiler. Maybe even as Robin. As Batgirl... well, she's better than a healed Babs taking on the role, or some completely new person, but not by much. I want Spoiler as Spoiler (or again, Robin would be nice). Failing that, I'd love it if they do what was suggested and have two Batgirls at once. All signs point to them doing it for Batman.

I don't have a scan on it any am too hot to go looking (that is, the temperature is too high, but I'd like to believe I'm also too attractive to have to do it), but I absolutely love Shiva's 'eulogy' for Cass before carrying her to the Lazarus pit, after she died saving somebody else and refusing to kill. "Heroes are forever. The rest of us are just part of the story." It's one of my favorite all-time comic moments.

[nezchan]

Hmm, most of the sort of things I read (European stuff, webcomics, some manga) don't really lend themselves to legacies. As interesting as it would be to see a child of Valérian and Laureline having adventures or some such.

Although if Aux Sources Du Z remains canon, then Spirou is his own legacy character!

[kingrockwell]

This one's really no surprise.


Haters to the left. That includes you, Darwyn Cooke.

[sinorhizobium]

1. Dick (from Bruce)
2. Damien (from Tim)
3. Tim (from Jason and Dick)
4. Wally (from Barry)
5. Cass (from Babs)
6. Steph (from Cass)

[big_daddy_d]

Damian Wayne
Tim Drake
Dick Grayson (as Batman)
Terry McGinnis
Stephanie Brown
Cassandra Cain
Mia Dearden
Renee Montoya
Kate Kane (don't know if she really counts but there was a Batwoman before her)
May "Mayday" Parker
Lian Harper (what? Just waiting for DC to bring her back for her to live on to be awesome)

[uadlika]

All that have been mentioned here are awesome, but my favorite would have to be the Black Canary, Dinah Laurel Lance.

[sleepymax]

Wally West and Tim Drake. Easily the best two characters to hold there legacy's mantle. Two of my all-time favorite characters.

It's pretty sad that Wally has pretty much no role now. Tim Drake has also been gone through quite a bit. I feel like his current identity is sorta awkward to watch and wasn't thoroughly planned out. IMO, I feel like he should Bruce's successor as Batman(if there has to be).

[suzene]

First and foremost:

Kate Spencer, who took up the Manhunter title:



Not always likable (seems to be a recurring trend in my fave characters), but she doesn't know the meaning of the word quit. Bonus points for a great supporting cast, and for her son Ramsey, who'll go on the take up the Manhunter mantle himself (we can hope).

Runner up: Jaime Reyes (current Blue Beetle). I'd like to say to say something nice about Ted Grant's kid, but he'd have to develop a personality first.

[tzipwich]

Kate Bishop (Hawkeye).

[psychopathicus_rex]

I guess I'm gonna have to go with Kyle Rayner. It's been pointed out that the Lanterns are a group with members chosen on merit, not a lineage, so this may not count, but remember, for a while there Kyle was the ONLY Green Lantern after Hal pretty much singlehandedly trashed the rest of the Corps. During that period, he pretty much WAS the Green Lantern legacy, so I'd say he counts. Anyway, he was the guy wearing the ring while I was first getting into comics, so he's the guy I think of when I think of Green Lantern. There are plenty of other legacy characters I like, mind you, but Kyle's the guy I think of when I hear the term, so... yeah. I'm goin' with him.