Date: 2010-09-01 11:02 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Red Robin WTF (Red Robin WTF)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
immm confused....
but Yay for Lara saving the Waynes! :)
also... who did Lois fall for? kal or Clark?

Date: 2010-09-01 11:26 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Looks like both.

This series looks fairly interesting.

Date: 2010-09-01 11:16 pm (UTC)
xammax: (stupid batman)
From: [personal profile] xammax
Saving the Waynes is always a bad idea. Those people really do need to die.

Date: 2010-09-01 11:19 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Maybe, but it is pretty satisfying seeing Joe Chill backhanded down the street like that.

Date: 2010-09-02 12:16 am (UTC)
thanekos: Yoshikage Kira as Kosaku Kawajiri, after the second arrow. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
There's also Speeding Bullets, where young Superbruce sets him on fire with an emotional flash of heat vision.

They mention finding Joe dead the next morning of severe burns, if I remember right.

Date: 2010-09-02 03:25 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
They couldn't catch Chill because he was on fire? I didn't know he was a ninja!

Date: 2010-09-02 10:15 am (UTC)
cypherfdp: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cypherfdp
No, the theory is that Ninjas can't catch you if you're on fire, you being a ninja is a side-bonus.

Date: 2010-09-01 11:41 pm (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Whenever one survives they're always evil. *nods*

Date: 2010-09-01 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hyperactivator
I can't seem to get into Superman ever since I realised that he comes from a race that managed to get itself killed because they ignored overwelming evidence that the planet was about to explode. This is in spite of the fact that they were a highly advanced science based society that was fully capable of evacuating said planet.

No matter how many times the event is retold Krypton is either destroyed by willfull stupidity or aparent suicide.

Was this adressed in War on New Krypton?

Date: 2010-09-01 11:23 pm (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
Unlike, say, a planet of people ignoring overwhelming evidence that their planet was slowly overheating...

Date: 2010-09-02 02:08 am (UTC)
leorising: (jorelspank)
From: [personal profile] leorising
Motto, LOL!

Date: 2010-09-02 03:25 am (UTC)
megami18:  Adam West does the Batusi from TV series (Default)
From: [personal profile] megami18
SO much motto!

Motto but...

Date: 2010-09-02 04:00 am (UTC)
twomasks: (Martians)
From: [personal profile] twomasks
I think you'll find that no one really disagrees about the change in climate. What folks disagree about is the cause.

Re: Motto but...

Date: 2010-09-02 05:04 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Eeeeh, people still disagree on the severity of the climate change, and how interrelated a lot of severe weather events across the globe are.

Re: Motto but...

Date: 2010-09-02 04:45 pm (UTC)
salad_barbarian: It's Jet from Cowboy Bebop (Thinking)
From: [personal profile] salad_barbarian
The thing is it shouldn't matter what the cause is. Whether it's natural of man made it's still something we should stop.

Date: 2010-09-02 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hyperactivator
No exactly like that unfortunately.The problem is that Kryptonians are always said to be better than humans mentally. They are usually an example of what humanity should strive for instead of a cautionary tale.

Date: 2010-09-02 12:39 am (UTC)
shanejayell: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shanejayell
It was canon for awhile that there was a bio-medical reason Kryptonians abandoned space flight, that they died if they left their planet. It was set up in the John Byrne reboot, dunno if it's still canon.

Date: 2010-09-02 01:11 am (UTC)
freezer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] freezer
I think current canon is the DCAU version: Braniac discredited Jor-El out of self-preservation, so he (and Kal-El) survive while Krypton went boom. I think they threw in the "self-imposed exile" thing to explain why there were no colonies other than Argo.

Date: 2010-09-01 11:27 pm (UTC)
stig: "It Was A Boojum..." (Default)
From: [personal profile] stig
The Wayne family get involved. Kal-El grows up to be Superman AND Clark Kent, just like in the usual universe. And any Kryptonians other than Superman turn out to be snobby dicks.

Judging by these scans, this Elseworld isn't predictable or unchallenging at all...

Date: 2010-09-02 03:24 am (UTC)
megami18:  Adam West does the Batusi from TV series (Default)
From: [personal profile] megami18
I kind of like the twins. The sister doesn't seem to be a snobby dick.

But the series is moving too fast for real character development of new characters or old ones. I mean, Lois only gets a few panels before she and Clark are in bed together. Probably the first version I've seen without a big reveal. I don't know why, but to me, Lois finding out that Clark is Superman just never gets old.

Date: 2010-09-02 03:29 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
I don't know why, but to me, Lois finding out that Clark is Superman just never gets old.

One of the best/funniest was probably in "The Adventures of Lois & Clark." A time traveler taunters Lois that people in the future think of her as one of the dumbest people ever for not realizing Clark was Superman. She's all "I totally knew the whole time" but it's obvious she didn't.

Date: 2010-09-02 04:39 am (UTC)
arbre_rieur: (DC Nation)
From: [personal profile] arbre_rieur
I'd say none of the family except Jor-El seem to be snobby dicks. Though the younger brother seems to have his own different issues.

Date: 2010-09-01 11:32 pm (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
The message of EVERY Supes Elseworlds: Superman will out.

Seriously; almost all of them end up that way. In the end, except for RED SON, it always turns out There Must Be A Superman. They're always stories of how a divergent reality goes back to the status quo.

Date: 2010-09-02 01:01 am (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Then there was that Batman story with the Phantom Stranger, where he and Robin save another world's Bruce Wayne from being orphaned, and it implies he'd eventually become Batman anyway just for different reasons.

Date: 2010-09-02 01:32 am (UTC)
arbre_rieur: (DC Nation)
From: [personal profile] arbre_rieur
This goes back to the origins of the Elseworlds, a line that began with BATMAN: GOTHAM BY GASLIGHT. They were always less about alternate realities and more about premises such as "Batman... in Victorian times!" Seeing the heroes in a different setting, basically, and they've stuck to those roots over the years.

Or to put it another way, Elseworlds are titled SUPERMAN: SOMETHING-SOMETHING, not KAL-EL: SOMETHING-SOMETHING for a reason.

Date: 2010-09-02 01:40 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
Granted, but they've become very predictable for that reason. Has there ever been one where he did NOT choose to be Superman? A selfish Kal who just wants a normal life and sticks to it might be interesting. Imagine if he'd decided to keep his powers secret forever.

Date: 2010-09-02 04:32 pm (UTC)
comicoz: Really, 99 of them (Default)
From: [personal profile] comicoz
Wasn't Superman Inc kind of like that? At least the selfish part. Been a while.

Date: 2010-09-02 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I think that's the difference betwen an Elseworld and a What-if?

Date: 2010-09-02 12:26 am (UTC)
yaseen101: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaseen101
I like the idea that Clark just naturally wants to help people. That he has some sort of innate goodness in him that the Kents helped to nurture.

Date: 2010-09-02 02:38 am (UTC)
retro_nouveau: AARP Bruce (68)
From: [personal profile] retro_nouveau
Is Lara also going to save Steve Trevor, so Diana doesn't have to leave the island? Save Abin Sur from mortal injury? Save Barry Allen from the lightning strike? XD

Lots of family infighting, and Kal calls him Jor-El instead of Dad or Father. So much for "They can be a great people, Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way."

Date: 2010-09-02 04:01 am (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Oh great, Batman's parents are alive, the world is going to hell. Was a promising earth.... where is the JSA?

Date: 2010-09-02 05:46 am (UTC)
schala_kid: Slowpoke Flash (flash)
From: [personal profile] schala_kid
Well I guess one person killed Batman before he was even born, and that person was Superman's mom. That said I kind of love how Bruce is all happy with Lara, he even visits her a bit before they find out about the Doomsdayers and Valora.

Still, I wonder what this means for Gotham.


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