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During the 30 Days of Scans, many of us have said Batman's biggest flaw/drawback/etc. is when he's a jerk to other superheroes. Sometimes Batman is a jerk for a reason, sometimes just to be a jerk, sometimes because he's Batman.

So, how about some examples of Batman being a jerk to other superheroes? And if Batman is being a jerk just because he's Batman?



From INFINITE CRISIS #1.


From JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #0.

Date: 2010-09-08 11:12 pm (UTC)
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It was actually worse than that...she was ACTING OUT the scenario playing in her head - making her at least as dangerous as if she were evil.

Frankly, the only plan that was any good was the one used against Kyle. Superman's was untested and untestable; Wonder Woman, J'onn and Flash were serious backfires (as was Superman, but that was part of the untested aspect), as they remain dangerous after the plan is enacted; Flash, Aquaman, Plastic Man, and J'onn were positively sadistic; Aquaman would take too long to have an effect.

It's been argued that the sadistic elements were played up by Ra's - but that only works for Plas - all the others, removing the sadistic element also removes the effective element.

That's ignoring the difficulty in deploying most of them (especially the hypnotic suggestions used against Kyle and Orin) when they were needed. The Kryptonite, nanite cloud (J'onn), and liquid nitrogen (Plas) are the only ones that could easily be deployed in a combat situation against these people - trying to tag Wally or Diana, or hypnotise Kyle or Orin while they're in full combat mode is a pretty silly idea.

Date: 2010-09-09 12:14 am (UTC)
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And just for fun, contrast to League of One, where Diana takes out everyone else quickly and efficiently :)

Date: 2010-09-10 04:20 am (UTC)
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Which, if I recall correctly, was actually stated as the only way TO take them out, which indeed seems to be the case. Batman can beat just about anyone with a little advance warning, Superman is the ultimate 'never say die' character, and is massively powerful to boot; Wonder Woman is a trained Amazon warrior with godlike powers, J'onn has a huge range of powers and is telepathic to boot, Flash is the fastest guy on Earth and Green Lantern has the most powerful weapon in the universe on his finger. As a group, in a fair fight, they're unstoppable - the only way to beat them is to catch them off guard, either all at once or separately, knock 'em cold before they have time to think of a way out.

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