Scans_Daily

I know! It's one of the MANY things I love about her. xD

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she needs back on the Titans, especially since Krul wrote her so good in BLGA

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I would like that, I would be fine with her in GA, which I think that's her in Silhouette. But I want her on the Titans because I Really, really want her and Rose to become friends like so so bad. So yes, she needs to join the Titans.

I'd be fine with them putting her anywhere though, just as long as she doesn't just go off and disappear...

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Silhouette?

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Yeah, when they showed the "Merry Men" One of them looked like it was probably her. It MIGHT not be though. What issue was that? Was that 1? I don't know it might have just been a preview. I'll have to find it...

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yes, scanz plzzzz :)

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here you go It looks like it might be Mia unless they're faking us out.

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oh that BETTER be Mia! otherwise i will be PISSED, so pissed i might request a Casstoon about it ;)

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I know right? I hope that if it is her they don't make her like super depressed and everything. I can deal with her being sad and all that I mean everything that happened it'd feel phoney if she wasn't. But it would be unlike Mia to be all ANGSTANGSTANGST like all the time, so I hope she's not.

If it's not I'll be pissed, unless it's Cissie King-Jones which is also another rumor because at C2E2 it was mentioned that YJ people were going to be around more (which could have just meant the main four but idk), and even though that isn't her in the Young Justice cartoon it does say on wiki that she still will be in it, but of course that's wiki so I'm taking that with a grain of salt. But I'd be FINE with it being Cissie, and then Mia can go over to the Teen Titans. And it'd be easy to be in both since they're both being written by Krul. And then we can all be happy.

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I miss Mia!

also "That's if the boy's even interested." heh, oh Ollie

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icon_uk

No, Ollie, being a heroes sidekick didn't screw up Roy, or if it did, not half as much as you being, at best, an absentee father figure did

I have to ask, what makes Onomatopoeia so instantly dangerous to experienced, skilled fighters, aside from writers fiat? (seriously, taking down Connor AND Dinah that easily?) and other than his repeating sounds gimmick, does he have a personality at all?

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Honestly I have no idea. They don't really talk about him, I don't think he's been much of anywhere other then here. They show a few other things, him at home, and stuff but he is really never talking or anything other then the sound thing.

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glprime

At least he's not the Greek assassin who's so fast you don't even see him move (no, he's not a meta), and apparently one of the top martial artists in the DCU (even though he's never been mentioned by the likes of Shiva or the League of Asssassins).

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terrykun

I can only say this.

My icon is up for grabs. :D

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benicio127

Eee! I love Mia's crush on Connor, so much cuteness!

The only bummer thing about this is that Phil Hester's art makes Dinah and Mia look very same-facey.

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I know they're so adorable. <333

It pretty much makes everyone look the same or very similar.

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retro_nouveau

Bruce gets a sidekick, so Ollie gets a sidekick. Bruce gets a cave, so Ollie gets a cave. Bruce gets a car, so Ollie gets a car. Bruce gets a spunky, blonde, smart-mouthed stray kid... At least Mia never got kicked out (?) :D

Dinah's secret identity maintenance fail: "Outa my way, doc!" "Oliver!" "Oh, Oliver, is it?" XD

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lady-mondegreen.insanejournal.com

Thank goodness he put his mask back on right before, though. That half-inch of concealment around his eyes means he could be any Oliver in the city! Good luck finding him, doc!

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punishermax

~Hulks rush in~

"WHAT FUCKING HAPPEN PEOPLE? WHAT HAPPEN HERE? WHAT HAPPEN TO MAKE COMIC SUCK SO BAD? WHY GREEN ARROW NOW MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS?"

"WHY IT NECESSARY TO RUN SERIES ABOUT ARSENAL TURNING INTO SHITTY RIPOFF OF PUNISHER? WHY SERIES HAVE BE MOST MANIPULATIVE PILE OF SHIT EVER MADE IN COMIC? HULK NOT TAKE THAT BACK EITHER. THAT SHIT LAME. HULK SO GLAD COMIC KILL OFF CHILD AS METHOD OF MAKING HERO SAID. THAT SO GOD DAMN ORIGINAL."

"KILLING OFF CHILD IS FAST BECOMING EMOTIONAL EQUIVALENT OF BAND SAYING NAME OF CITY DURING CONCERT. "HEY (INSERT CITY HERE) WE HERE HEARD YOU LIKE TO ROCK!? SO LET'S GO FOR SOME WORKING FOR THE WEEKEND!" OF COURSE PEOPLE CHEER. THEY HEAR NAME OF TOWN. CONVERSELY, OF COURSE PEOPLE FEEL BAD, MAN LOSE CHILD, THAT VERY SAD. IT NOT CHANGE FACT IF FUCKING MANIPULATIVE AS HELL. HULK HALF EXPECT OLLIE PUT ON CLOWN NOSE AND GO TO SICK CHILDREN HOSPITAL."

"ALSO, WHY ROY NEED BE SHITTY PUNISHER KNOCK OFF? OOOOO HE SO CONFLICTED AND DARK NOW. HULK WANT BUY ALL HIS T-SHIRTS. MAYBE HULK DUST OFF HIS BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE LP AND READ COMIC. JESUS CHRIST."

"HULK FUCKING TIRED. HULK TIRED OF THIS STUPID FUCKING BULLSHIT WITH DARK SHIT. HULK NOT SAY COMIC NOT BE DARK. BUT GOD DAMN PEOPLE. STOP BEING OVERT ABOUT COMIC. BE SUBTLE FOR FUCK SAKE. STOP USING PAY IT FORWARD AS FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR SUBTLETY IN TRAGEDY."

"FUCK THIS, HULK WATCH JERSEY SHORE NOW"

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Preach.

I don't think they realize comics can be fun, but still have serious things happen. I mean Connor was shot and things were dealt with, without all the crap that happened. I mean come on...

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minyandu

These days, readers complaining the books have too much crap to buy while editors complaining if they don't do this crap nobody will buy. I don't know if we are living in paralel dimension.
I did go trough all the troubles to beg my friend bringing comics back to me after she finished studying in England, but these kind of crap had definitely been ruled out of my list before I asked.

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levyrasputin

*hands Hulk a giant pint of beer + mint vodka*

And you are absolutely right.

I've ranted so much about this all already, but let me reiterate.
We have lost, through CFJ, the essence of Arrow family.
Roy is gone with Lian, and won't come back, probably he has less chance of coming back then his daughter.
Mia and Connor got forgotten, with the former being stained forever with the responsability of have failed to protect Lian.

Ollie is living in LOL!Sherwood and is dealing with the mystical BD crap while GA is the last book fit to have this mysticall crap going on as the charm of the book was to be though on themes but humorous sometimes, very street-level and down to earth.

Dinah has been put in the femenist-glorifyed role of team leader of the BoP again but at what price?
CFJ and its fallout depicted Dinah as a woman that left her foster kid, those she is supposed to love and protect, adrift after their family has been shaken by such a tragedy.
A heartless selfish bitch, to say it classily.

We are probably suppose to forget about this since it happened in a book different from BoP and just cheer that our heroine's marriage with a man that - although being the man she'd loved the most in her life - was not the ideal partner a character with a high reputation as Black Canary should be with, has been dissolved.
A lot of readers would be happy, since I've always seen a lot of complaints about Dinah and Ollie together and their marriage, how it is all making her less of a character and a person.

"Yay, indipendent Dinah running around with BBF indipendent Babs and be awesome in girl-centric book!! :D <3 "

I don't wanna sound bitter, but I really hope that not all those people are satisfyied now that they got back what they wanted, and are truly able to see Dinah in the same way and forget at what costs this condition was re-established.

I had no real big problems with Ollie and Dinah married, but even if I did, I'm sure I'd still think the price we payed it wasn't worth it.
It definitely wasn't worth it.

Sorry for the large rant, I had to get this off of my chest.

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I didn't get to say this to you on Tumblr but I totally agree with that about Dinah. It did ruin her character for me a little bit, it made her feel cold and uncaring to me. And then we're just supposed to forget about it because she's in BoP now? *shrug* whatever...

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levyrasputin

SORRY you got to deal twice with my rants :/

Anyway, yes.
To me at least, characters are made of their relationship for a big part and if those relationship got crushed down, the characters loose a lot of their meaning to me.
(Just imagine what a happy Titans fan I am right now! |D; )
I just can't see how anyone can love Dinah AND do not hate her in CFJ and Rise and Fall, and feel sorry that she has practically lost her family.

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jaybee3

Totally agree with you on the Black Canary thing. The way they handled that was so sloppy I think Gail Simone could be forgiven for not actually mentioning (yet) the way the marriage was dissolved. I mean the woman forgave Ollie for pretending Sin was dead (while sending her to a monastery) and for tasering her but we're supposed to believe that she'd just dump Ollie while he's awaiting trial for killing Lian's killer and leaving Mia behind while she's at it even though Speedy has gone through hell for what happened to Lian? Not to mention the fact that in the doggy-poo that was "Rise of Arsenal" Dinah went along with Dick in knocking out Roy and having him transferred to a psych ward that specializes in super-villains (and then leaving him there). I understand they wanted her to get back to BoP quick as if she never left but whatever happened to the empathetic hero Black Canary is supposed to be (I'm not even going to go into how she's suddenly working with the guy - Hank Hall/Hawk - who killed her "uncles" Doc Mid-nite and the Atom in cold blood and not having a serious problem with Oracle for calling him and Dove in).

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equinox216

WHY GREEN ARROW NOW MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS?

Really, Hulk? Castlevania riffing on Malraux?

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arysteia

How did this AWESOME turn into the festering pile of rancid crap that was Cry for Justice/Rise and Fall???

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This is what I've been trying to figure out

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superheroics

Aw, Arrow family. When you were good, you were really good. :")

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I have to say, he hasn't been used very well of late, but I like Onomatopoeia. He's one of those characters that could ONLY work in comics - the whole 'saying sound effects' thing works on a meta-level that's kind of interesting. It's like he is one with the sound effects or something. That bit where he goes 'skkrreeee?' is weirdly funny - it's like 'I know all the sound effects that OUGHT to be here, but I've never heard THAT one before. I wonder what it is?'
Also - 'you're such a 'mo'? I presume that's short for 'emo', but why on earth would you want to shorten a word that is already an extremely shortened version of something else? 'Emo'. 'E-Mo'. Two syllables. How hard is that? I swear, people are not going to be happy until the entire English language is reduced to monosyllables - or, should I say ''wear, peep not gon' be hap' 'til 'tire Eng' 'lang 'duce to mon'?' OK, rant over... for the moment... *grumble grumble grumble*

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harmoner

I took 'mo as being an abbreviation for homosexual which made me think 'really Kevin Smith?'

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Another possibility, I suppose, but A: that doesn't really make sense - I mean, what exactly is stereotypically 'gay' about a quiet appreciation of family? - and B: if that IS the case, that slots into my abbreviation rant just as well, if not better, because it's downright nonsensical. Abbreviating 'emo' to 'mo' is bad enough, but abbreviating 'homo' (at least, I presume that's what would be abbreviated; it's a common enough term) is just preposterous. For cryin' out loud, there are already about a zillion slang terms for homosexuality, many of which are monosyllabic - if she MUST be using one (although, like I said, I doubt that's what she's doing), why on earth would she come up with a whole new monosyllabic abbreviation of an already abbreviated word when there are such a bevy of other, similarly terse ones to choose from - especially when the thing you're abbreviating IS ONLY TWO SYLLABLES LONG TO START WITH? Who's simultaneously THAT verbally lazy and that creative? 'Mo' at least sounds vaguely like 'Emo', but... The whole thing is bizarre, no matter how you look at it.

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christianconnor

I thought 'mo' had been slang for 'homosexual' for ages now.

'Emo' didn't even occur to me here, but maybe you're right.

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*shrugs* I've never heard the term used outside this context, so it's difficult to say one way or the other - it just seems to me to make more sense as 'emo' than 'homo'. The only way to find out, I suppose, would be to ask Kevin Smith - and he probably doesn't even remember writing the line, at this point.

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whitesycamore

Another possibility, I suppose, but A: that doesn't really make sense - I mean, what exactly is stereotypically 'gay' about a quiet appreciation of family?

Because feelings are SO GAY.

But yeah, 'mo IS an abbreviation of homosexual. You may not have heard it before, but it is. I often hear gay men describing themselves as 'mo's, which makes it all the more weird to read it in a slightly homophobic context. Even weirder is hearin Mia say it - she seems too cool for that bullshit.

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It is? Whoa. That IS weird. I suppose it works if you go by the logic of idiotic juvenile slang - i.e, 'that is so gay' to describe, well, just about anything you don't like or think is dumb - but yeah, you'd think Mia would be a teeny bit more intelligent than that, especially as she doesn't seem to be particularly prejudiced outside of this. Perhaps Kevin Smith was going by the logic I used, and thought he was abbreviating 'emo'? It wouldn't be the first time someone has done something like that unintentionally.
And my soul weeps for the English language, being drained dry of its syllables. There they go, trickling down into the River Styx, being washed away forever. Farewell... farewell! *blows nose*

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ondine

what exactly is stereotypically 'gay' about a quiet appreciation of family?

well, the "sound of family" part is pretty mawkish, and such sentimentality is regarded as un-macho and hence, 'gay'.

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Ah. *rolls eyes* This is, of course, ignoring the fact that a great deal of uber-macho action heroes are presented as family men, including, oh, let's see, the PUNISHER. Really, though, it's pointless railing against things like that since they're inherently illogical arguments - namely, 'if you're not THIS (insert narrow criteria here) then you must be THIS.' The second 'this' can be just about anything. I'm reminded of a time in high school where a friend of mine cheerfully informed me that the music I liked was 'hippy shit'. (She wasn't being insulting, mind you, just humorously parroting something she'd heard.) In fact, just about EVERYTHING I liked was 'hippy shit'. What WASN'T, according to this criteria, hippy shit? Heavy metal rock music. I never did find out just who my friend heard this from, but we know what THEIR priorities were.

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harmoner

Ah Connor, my favourite arrow family member. I miss when he was awesome. He and Mia should get a book.

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