sandoz_iscariot: A young man looks thoughtful, his chin resting on his hand. (Beatles: *Bats Eyelashes*)
sandoz_iscariot ([personal profile] sandoz_iscariot) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2010-10-09 02:31 pm

Beatles Biography Comic: John Lennon

In honor of what would have been John Lennon's 70th birthday today, here are scans from a Beatles biography comic book published by Dell in 1964. Jelly babies! Fake beards! John's one terrifying creepface!

The comic comes in five parts: bios for each of the Beatles, and a general "history" of the band. Here are excerpts from John's section:

"the serious look of a married man" oh lord

Having been published at the height of Beatlemania, the comic is pretty fluffy, heavily-idealized stuff, in keeping with their "cute and innocent" image at the time.

John's first marriage to Cynthia Powell is depicted as something straight out of a 50s romance comic:

Not shown: the nearby jackhammer drowning out the entire ceremony, the Best Man secretly in love with the groom, the shotgun...

It even tries to put a light spin on John yelling at his fans:


Also, John only has one facial expression. Ever.

See? He even smiles while yelling at his barber. (And Inexplicably Ginger Brian Epstein gazes longingly on)

You know it's a real art gallery because the people wear berets. Also the artist apparently thought Julian Lennon was a girl, IDK.


Beatlemania hits, making it hard to walk around freely. BUT JOHN AND PAUL HAVE A SOLUTION:

Beatles with beards? That would never work out.

And hordes of innocent young men have their beards brutally ripped off their faces. THANKS LENNON AND MCCARTNEY.

But I'll leave you with a wisecrack:

[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex 2010-10-10 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose - I don't really think it's the same thing, though. I mean, sure, the Beatles used to say some crazy things, but there's a hell of a difference between having a little fun with your audience and actively trying to provoke and incense random strangers for your own twisted pleasure. The Beatles messed with people's heads all the time, but they weren't trying to make them mad.

[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex 2010-10-10 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't saying they were, necessarily - although I'll admit I didn't know about that stuff - just that there's a difference between messing around with people and, well, being trolls. The Beatles may not have been perfect, but they never struck me as being outright NASTY.
kingrockwell: he's a sexy (Babs Gordon)

[personal profile] kingrockwell 2010-10-10 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"just that there's a difference between messing around with people and, well, being trolls"

That's, uh, pretty much the definition of trolling, so no, there really isn't.
hell, even the unmalicious mischief-making still fits

And like she just said, some of it could've been pretty malicious, no matter how they struck you.

[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex 2010-10-10 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps the term 'messing around' is too broad for what I mean. Trolling is BROADLY covered by it, yes, but I'd say it counts more as a sort of passive-aggressive form of bullying - you taunt people to get a rise out of them, secure in the knowledge that they have no idea who YOU are, and you may not even be there at that point. The stuff the Beatles did is different because they did it in PERSON - the people they messed with saw who did it, which left them open for retaliation in kind. If you're going to mess with people, that at least is a more honest way of doing it.
kingrockwell: he's a sexy (Babs Gordon)

[personal profile] kingrockwell 2010-10-10 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
And it's still trolling.

You're just going to have to accept that folks use the phrase for more situations than you might, not always over the internet, not always necessarily bullying.
Internet-trolling is only one type of trolling, it is not the full extent of the concept.

[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex 2010-10-10 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, all I can say is that I'VE never heard anyone use the term 'trolling' to refer to in-person pranks or bullying or head games. Every time I've heard the term used, it's referred to people on the 'net.
kingrockwell: he's a sexy (Ferdinand)

[personal profile] kingrockwell 2010-10-10 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you hadn't at least, but hey, live and learn.

[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex 2010-10-11 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
OK, fine, I hadN'T, but apart from you, I still haven't. I've yet to hear of someone be called 'you big troll!' for bullying someone, for instance.