goggle_kid: (Arana Spider-man)goggle_kid ([personal profile] goggle_kid) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2010-11-02 07:30 pm UTC
Entry tags:char: nomad/bucky/rikki barnes, char: spider-girl/arana/anya corazon, creator: dave baldeon, creator: sean mckeever, series: awesome new female characters
So it's Awesome New Female Character Week. What better time to check in with the hot new non-cannon romance find of 2010 ! I'm talking about the "Girl Without a World"... Bucky NOMAD: Rikki Barnes!* and" the Heart of the Spider" Araña ALL NEW SPIDER-GIRL: Anya Corazon.

So here's a nice moment from issue #4 of the supremely entertaining (though recently canceled) Young Allies.





Minor Spoiler: After-Shock isn't Electro's daughter. In fact non of the Bastards of Evil are villain's children except: [SPOILER!]









*Ok Rikki technically isn't that new a character, but I tend to ignore the whole Heroes Reborn thing and pretend she's an awesome character created in the last two years.


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shanejayell: (Sasameki Koto)


[personal profile] shanejayell
2010-11-03 12:49 am UTC (link)
"Venomette' so needs to be a new character. *lol*

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goggle_kid: (Juston)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 01:14 am UTC (link)
Well Anya has to be getting an arch nemesis down the line.

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schmevil: (j'onn)


[personal profile] schmevil
2010-11-03 10:43 pm UTC (link)
Make it so!

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[personal profile] silicondream
2010-11-03 01:04 am UTC (link)
But "aftershock" has to do with earthquakes not electricity oh never mind.

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thanekos: Kouhei " Principal Garren " Hayami, the Libra Zodiarts, is bugged. (pic#4501540)


[personal profile] thanekos
2010-11-03 01:14 am UTC (link)
hey, don't fix what ain't broke

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goggle_kid: (Rainbow Batman)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 01:15 am UTC (link)
I think that's sort of the joke.

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felinephoenix: Mayday getting her thwip on. (spider-girl: thwip thwip)


[personal profile] felinephoenix
2010-11-03 01:33 am UTC (link)
Alas, McKeever seems as fond of it here as he was in Spider-Girl. Even if it doesn't make much sense. (Like May said, though, better than calling yourself "Electra"...)

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felinephoenix: Mayday getting her thwip on. (spider-girl: thwip thwip)


[personal profile] felinephoenix
2010-11-03 01:35 am UTC (link)
Oh wait, my bad. Allison Dillion first showed up in McKeever's Spider-Girl issue, but he didn't name her. Blame DeFalco and the desire for shoutouts.

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goggle_kid: (Juston)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 02:32 am UTC (link)
This actually isn't Allison Dillion.

Though the idea that Allison's actually the second Aftershock if MC2 is really an alternate future amuses me.

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felinephoenix: I love Ulti!MJ's expressions a little too much. (ulti-spidey: mj hay hay hay)


[personal profile] felinephoenix
2010-11-03 02:38 am UTC (link)
Whoops, I didn't know that. Still, the character's obviously a shoutout to the MC2 Aftershock, hence the name.

It is pretty amusing. Allison would be so angry!

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goggle_kid: (Arana Spider-man)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 02:44 am UTC (link)
Wait a minute I just realized something else.

If MC2 is an alternate future and Anya exists, that means May's Spider-Girl II.

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felinephoenix: Buffy & Willow (buffy - lil!buff & lil!will)


[personal profile] felinephoenix
2010-11-03 02:47 am UTC (link)
Yes and no.

I'm pretty sure Word of God has always been that MC2 is an alternate present, not a future. Although that would explain why the older Arana had been so determined to mentor May...

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goggle_kid: (Rainbow Batman)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 04:43 am UTC (link)
Or it could be there's no MC2 Nomad for her...

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felinephoenix: Utena standing proud in the wind. (utena - windblown)


[personal profile] felinephoenix
2010-11-03 04:46 am UTC (link)
Actually, American Dream's initial codename was Nomad. She made a suit and everything.

Yes, I'm a giant dork. Still, MC2 Anya's epic Foe Yay with Black Tarantula would have made a romance with Rikki difficult, so I suppose that's still true...

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[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
2010-11-03 04:56 am UTC (link)
If it's ANY kind of a future, wouldn't that technically make her the FIRST Aftershock?

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amaniwolf: (Galactus)


[personal profile] amaniwolf
2010-11-03 01:10 am UTC (link)
I really am enjoying this group, and Arana and Nomad are great! This team has so much potential!

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goggle_kid: (Rom)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 01:34 am UTC (link)
Yeah. I'm really hoping they keep these characters around after the series ends.

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felinephoenix: Thanks for being sarcastically understanding. (spidey - pete/mj: sarcastic love)


[personal profile] felinephoenix
2010-11-03 01:37 am UTC (link)
I hope Anya and Rikki hook up they keep these characters around, too.

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terrykun: (aqualad year one clap)


[personal profile] terrykun
2010-11-03 01:41 am UTC (link)
It's only subtext if it's subtle.

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felinephoenix: I love Ulti!MJ's expressions a little too much. (ulti-spidey: mj hay hay hay)


[personal profile] felinephoenix
2010-11-03 01:42 am UTC (link)
Indeed.

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lieut_kettch: (pic#469036)


[personal profile] lieut_kettch
2010-11-03 03:34 am UTC (link)
Arrrrrrr! Set sail, me hearties on the good ship Ranya!

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long_silence: (icon 1, Wiccan)


[personal profile] long_silence
2010-11-03 02:17 am UTC (link)
Apparently the Young Allies are teaming up with the Secret Avengers in McKeever's next project "Onslaught Unleashed"

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goggle_kid: (Arana Spider-man)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 02:25 am UTC (link)
They're also going to be meeting the kids from Avengers Academy in a couple of the upcoming annuals.

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long_silence: (icon 1, Wiccan)


[personal profile] long_silence
2010-11-03 02:29 am UTC (link)
Is that still happening?

The book is being canceled with issue 6 (which is coming out tomorrow coincidentally) even though issue 7 was solicited.

I haven't really heard either way if that crossover was still going to happen.

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goggle_kid: (Rom)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 02:36 am UTC (link)
You know... I honestly don't know if it's still on or not. Maybe the Avengers Academy annual will contain the whole thing.

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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2010-11-03 02:44 am UTC (link)
Young Allies must have had truly horrible sales to be cancelled despite planned crossovers and solicited books. Frankly, I'm not a big fan of the name and I wonder if they should have solicited it as a new New Warriors book or something.

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goggle_kid: (Rom)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 02:49 am UTC (link)
Which is a real pity as it's a good book. Though a title with a C-list cast is a hard sell in today's market.

I'm guessing they might have used the name to hold onto it for copyright purposes as Young Allies was a Golden Age book.

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long_silence: (icon 1, Wiccan)


[personal profile] long_silence
2010-11-03 02:50 am UTC (link)
Honestly I'm not surprised. New Marvel books just do not last very long these days if they aren't X-Related (and even that doesn't help much anymore) or don't have Avengers or Deadpool somewhere in the title.

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goggle_kid: (Rom)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 03:09 am UTC (link)
The depressing thing is that I'm not sure who to blame. It's like the entire fandom has this mindset that any character created after 1987 is inferior.

It's a small wonder Deadpool succeeded.

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kingrockwell: cool times; a man in a black shirt places a blue fedora on his head while throwing a jacket over his shoulder. (Steve Rogers)


[personal profile] kingrockwell
2010-11-03 02:56 pm UTC (link)
They have a lot more connections to the Young Allies than the New Warriors.

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long_silence: (icon 1, Wiccan)


[personal profile] long_silence
2010-11-03 04:09 pm UTC (link)
Well they have Rikki as a connection to the Young Allies.

But Firestar was a founding New Warrior.

Toro is based on his Counter-Earth counterpart and was only created because they decided to use the Young Allies title.

So they could have used the New Warriors title and still had Nomad, Arana, Firestar and Gravity as the cast. But the name does need a rest after volume 4.

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kingrockwell: cool times; a man in a black shirt places a blue fedora on his head while throwing a jacket over his shoulder. (Steve Rogers)


[personal profile] kingrockwell
2010-11-03 04:40 pm UTC (link)
Well, it also spun out of McKeever's Nomad stories, so while I could be wrong, I kinds get the impression that the decision to call it "Young Allies", the inclusion of Toro, and even the idea of making the team are all a little too tied together to put any kind of progression to their separate causes.

What I'm saying is I'm pretty sure they didn't just make Toro because they chose to make them the Young Allies, but that they even made the book because they wanted to make a new Young Allies.

As for it needing a rest, this was, uh, only the third volume published with that name, there hasn't been a volume four. It's also been out of use for over ten years, I don't see why it really needed a rest.

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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2010-11-05 09:44 pm UTC (link)
maybe they should have called themselves the Young Defenders or New Defenders or something, I think the New Defenders book with Iceman, Beast and Angel were just called that because it was an almost all new cast, and in uni they were just the Defenders.

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kingrockwell: uncertain times; a woman with green hair and sunglasses raises her eyebrow. something doesn't seem right to her (Abigail Brand)


[personal profile] kingrockwell
2010-11-05 09:51 pm UTC (link)
But there's no connection to the Defenders when there is a connection to the Young Allies. How would it help the book to name them after the Defenders, who were a relatively little-known team with a completely different mood to them?

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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2010-11-05 10:00 pm UTC (link)
does anyone really know the Young Allies? And are you at all familiar with the reboot of Thunderbolts after issue 75 of the first series?

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kingrockwell: uncertain times; a woman with green hair and sunglasses raises her eyebrow. something doesn't seem right to her (Abigail Brand)


[personal profile] kingrockwell
2010-11-05 10:07 pm UTC (link)
What I'm saying is that people are about as likely to know Young Allies as the Defenders, and maybe a little more so now that the leader of the last Young Allies is gaining some small form of prominence again (not to mention was included in this lineup). I'm saying there were reasons to name it Young Allies, but there weren't any to name it Defenders.
I'm not really sure what point your trying to make about Thunderbolts, they don't seem to be at all related to this discussion.

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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2010-11-05 10:09 pm UTC (link)
that other people can claim the name.

Honestly the best name for this book is Young Avengers. I know the Young Avengers are popular with fans, but I wonder if Marvel is regretting giving the name to a book that gets published so rarely.

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kingrockwell: cool times; a man in a black shirt places a blue fedora on his head while throwing a jacket over his shoulder. (Ollie Queen)


[personal profile] kingrockwell
2010-11-03 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I misread your last line there. Didn't realize you were saying "New Warriors" needs the rest.
Sorry about that.

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lieut_kettch: (LOLTed 1)


[personal profile] lieut_kettch
2010-11-03 02:23 pm UTC (link)
Hmm... how many youth teams does Marvel have now? It's getting hard to keep track of them. Maybe we should consolidate them into a single team: The New Young Runaway X-Avengers Allies Academy.

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felinephoenix: Mayday getting her thwip on. (spider-girl: thwip thwip)


[personal profile] felinephoenix
2010-11-03 01:31 am UTC (link)
They're both adorable together, so I think we can make an exception in this case.

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goggle_kid: (Juston)


[personal profile] goggle_kid
2010-11-03 02:36 am UTC (link)
If I had any kind of artistic ability there would still be a bunch of Anya/Rikki fanart on Deviant Art.

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jazzypom: (squee)

D'awww Rikki and Sofia are too cute


[personal profile] jazzypom
2010-11-03 07:31 am UTC (link)
Too. Cute.

Rikki is in the back pages of the Captain America books, but alas, I don't like Captain America enough to read them, even if I can get them for free. Although I like Rikki.

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kingrockwell: cool times; a man in a black shirt places a blue fedora on his head while throwing a jacket over his shoulder. (Steve Rogers)


[personal profile] kingrockwell
2010-11-03 02:53 pm UTC (link)
Well Rikki actually wasn't created in the last ten years but yessssssssssssssss

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