Red Hood: Lost Days #6 (Spoilers!!!)
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scans_dailyAKA the final issue of this mini-series and the issue where I was like omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
cuntfucius, levy and whitesycamore will be giddy about this.
Four pages.
Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.
Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.
In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.
The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.
As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.
Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.
Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.
I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.
cuntfucius, levy and whitesycamore will be giddy about this. Four pages.
Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.
Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.
In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.
The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.
As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.
Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.
Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.
I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.
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Date: 2010-11-04 12:23 am (UTC)And I will honestly say that I was totally squicked out at the thought of this happening. Totally, totally, completely squicked.
But then I actually read it. And I wasn't nearly as squicked out as I thought I'd be. Actually, I wasn't squicked at all. Immediately I thought: holy Oedipal Complex!
And then I thought, wait a minute. What is the one thing Talia wants? To be loved. Here her father's dead, Bruce has betrayed her, there's obvious mental instability going on, and vulnerability and it just happens.
I get that it's completely messed up because she's had this sort of motherly role and he's her Beloved's adopted son, yet to me it seems to be that's the whole point: it's supposed to be messed up! (I can also forgive this over anything Morrison did to Talia.)
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Date: 2010-11-04 12:29 am (UTC)It's really sad, but less squicky than the kiss in the Batman Annual #25. And I think Talia is capable of having emotions outside Bruce. She certainly seemed to care for Jason outside his connection to Bruce, and Jason definitely thought so too, as far back ass issue 2, when he asked her to help him kill Bruce.
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Date: 2010-11-04 01:42 am (UTC)Jason's mother issues are even more deep-seated and complex than his Batman issues.
Oh man, as soon as
How funny is it that Winick said early on that Talia is like Jason's "motherly influence" -- and he was done the story by then. So this whole Oedipal Complex thing is intended.
And even though this is Jason's story, I do wish we had more of Talia's POV in this.
Having said all that!! I did feel the issue had some flaws to it -- it needed to be longer! No, but seriously, the Joker scene needed to be more fleshed out and I could have done with a lot more details on Jason's reasons for choosing the Red Hood.
BUT! I loved that the dagger was a gift handed down from the al Ghuls. Love that the origin of the dagger was finally addressed. It's something I was waiting for. So yay!
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Date: 2010-11-04 01:58 am (UTC)Someone needs to post that, since I can't, as would be over the posting limits, etc.
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Date: 2010-11-04 02:02 am (UTC)