Red Hood: Lost Days #6 (Spoilers!!!)
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scans_dailyAKA the final issue of this mini-series and the issue where I was like omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
cuntfucius, levy and whitesycamore will be giddy about this.
Four pages.
Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.
Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.
In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.
The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.
As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.
Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.
Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.
I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.
cuntfucius, levy and whitesycamore will be giddy about this. Four pages.
Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.
Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.
In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.
The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.
As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.
Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.
Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.
I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.
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Date: 2010-11-04 01:41 pm (UTC)Yes, because having a problem with Talia's characterization here is the same as being unconfortable with them having any kind of sexual interaction an be squicked by it.
That's totally the same thing!
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seriously, people, this "hahah I win, you lose!!!" attitude some of you love to sport is the most disappointing feature of fandom ever.
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Date: 2010-11-04 03:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-04 04:15 pm (UTC)I don't find this scene hot at all because both seems more desperate than enjoying themselves or having a moment of true passion.
But was it different, I probably would.
I must admit that the idea of the awkwardness of Damian finding out are actually hilarious to me, though.
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Date: 2010-11-04 11:47 pm (UTC)Ahh actually my friend, for me this is not about winning, losing, or gloating. I just simply find the situation interesting as for me, it's more of a "what do you want?" thing? "Didn't you want this? Did you want that? What's the problem now?" That kind of thing.
And regardless of characterization, I'm not on board for the ship. Doesn't matter to me, but if you want to talk characterization, I will say this..I do not like Talia being portrayed as the Femme Fatale villainess. I'd understand if this uncharateristic trait is due to her mind still being fucked up after what Nyssa did to her, otherwise..no.
I remember Talia as an exotic beauty who often had inner turmoil due to her love and loyalty. Even if she did questionable things, I always felt that..turmoil and she thus always maintained a level of innocence. Ultimately..you can't help but wish she'd become someone stronger as the longer she's under her father's thumb and caught up in this conflict...the more likely that her end will not be a good... but alas... we get the big heel turn and irksome moments... I miss the real Talia.
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Date: 2010-11-05 03:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-11-05 05:47 am (UTC)Am I uncomfortable with what happened? No
What do I want? an interaction between them that was more about them and less about Bruce, and I didn't get that, hence the disappointment.
and yes, you are perfectly right about Talia loosing a lot of interesting points when she's portrayed as a one-dimensional femme fatale villainess with little to none consistency about her actions. I'd be okay with her staying on her father side as long as a good, coherent reason is given for her actions as a whole.