Red Hood: Lost Days #6 (Spoilers!!!)
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scans_dailyAKA the final issue of this mini-series and the issue where I was like omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
cuntfucius, levy and whitesycamore will be giddy about this.
Four pages.
Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.
Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.
In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.
The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.
As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.
Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.
Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.
I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.
cuntfucius, levy and whitesycamore will be giddy about this. Four pages.
Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.
Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.
In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.
The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.
As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.
Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.
Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.
I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.
Re: Awesome Slut-Shaming!
Date: 2010-11-06 11:37 pm (UTC)AGREED. I really dislike this policing of reactions when there is NO abuse of position/trust and that usually applies to cases when it's teacher/student, doctor/patient, social worker/counselor/coach& student and when that individual is 16 or under in most cases. In most places around the world, the age of consent is 16, including states in the U.S. Not only that, but Jason is 18!
On top of that, I really dislike this whole policing of people's reactions that they find this scene hot. Am I policing Icon_UK when he (or any other poster for that matter) likes to see a nubile young-ish Dick Grayson tied up? Uh, no.
Thirdly, I feel a lot of the outrage over this has to do with double standards. Look at the "barely legal" porn dedicated to men or the other porns (or just movies, media in general) in which men sleep with twins or (not their) mother and daughter. Yet, a woman sleeping with unrelated father and son is shamed forever and will never win back anyone's love or get respect and she'll have to live in a box for the rest of her life, zOMG.
I just feel like there's this really gross double standard at play here.
*sigh* One day I'm going to stop commenting on this post.
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Date: 2010-11-08 11:27 am (UTC)anyway, I'm bad at calculations and DC is not really helping with their sloppy and conveniente sense of time, but since you seem to be much more able than me, at least when it comes to Jason's canon...
Bruce took him in at twelve? .. and he trained him untill fourteen, when he got killed? ...and adopted him posthoumsly, isn't it?
Fucking big deal on the "zomg it's like family Talia raised him as a _child_ and then slept with THE SON of the man she loved!!!"
Okay, I get it, some people find it squicky and I respect that as a subjective reaction, but let's try not to push this whole situation to and extreme that really isn't there.
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Date: 2010-11-08 01:15 pm (UTC)I *believe* he was killed at about 15, resurrected, spent time in the hospital, then on the streets and then was 16 when he was picked up and brought to the al Ghul residence. And I think Bruce had adopted him prior to his death because I don't know if laws allow you to adopt someone posthumously, you know what I mean?
I really should stop, ha. Every time I think on this subject, I get more incensed. Because you know, Bruce Wayne loves several women and can sleep with whomever he wants and no one makes any objections, but when a woman who loves him has sex not with him everyone gets up in arms.
Why isn't Bruce held to that same standard, you know, like when he banged Jezebel Jet? Didn't he love Selina at the same time?
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Date: 2010-11-08 01:23 pm (UTC)Aaahah true.
And I actually have to point out some hypocrisy in me about this, as I don't think Bruce is that good for Selina after all of this on and off... =PP
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Date: 2010-11-08 01:28 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-11-08 01:31 pm (UTC)okay, I take back the assumption Jason was not his son legally. Doesn't change much about the lack of blood connection and the fact that Bruce took him in as a young teen, not as a baby.
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Date: 2010-11-08 01:28 pm (UTC)Actually, Jason was the first one he adopted! Then he adopts Dick legally in Gotham Knights, then adopts Tim after his father, Jack, is killed post-Infinite Crisis, then Cass (in her mini, I think?)
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