The Flash #6

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[dreamreaver]

Hot Pursuit is John Fox, calling it now

[pyrotwilight]

Yeah people have been guessing him since Hit Pursuit was brought up in solicitations.

[xammax]

Soooooooooo is Rip Hunter and Booster gonna kick these guys ass or what?

[akodo_rokku]

Rip would already know if they were a threat, so if he doesn't do anything to deal with them then clearly they're already being dealt with.

[ejne7]

I've got to think that, given how recently Johns was writing Booster's book, it can't be simple coincidence that a bunch of time cops from Booster's century are the new big bads here. Really hope we get to see some clan Carter dimension to Flashpoint.

[icon_uk]

A time fissure eh?

[shadowpsykie]

im with Wibbly wobbly timey wimey

[big_daddy_d]

Reminds me of the plot of Dr. Who last season.

[starwolf_oakley]

Calling it now. There's only one way to pull a Jim Kirk and destroy any crazed supercomputer that monitors time which says certain people have to die in order to "save the future":
Ask it "Who is Donna Troy?" The thing will fold like a deck chair.

[silicondream]

Er...if the Renegades disqualify anyone with a criminal ancestor in the last 400 years, who could possibly qualify? The chances of all 20,000 or so of your ancestors having no criminal record is pretty much zero. Hell, given the current felony conviction rate in the US, any 25th-century American will have a few hundred convicted felons among their ancestors from the 21st century alone.

And while I'm snarking, why would a bunch of cops call themselves the "Renegades?" That's like, even eviller than "Rogues."

[nezchan]

They're sponsored by Chrysler.

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

What's that mean? Sorry, don't get the reference

[nezchan]

They all drive Jeep Renegades.

[althechi]

I would mention Australia or something but I don't want to get buried under a pile of outraged Aussies.

[xammax]

Its the reason you never see Batman there; an entire country that would piss their pants if he even flew in their airspace.

[destroyed]

Read this yesterday:

"So my friend is taking a vacay in Australia, and he arrives at customs....

Aussie customs official: Do you have a criminal record?
Friend: Wha...? I thought you didn't need one anymore."

One of my best boys is an Aussie so it's all in fun, haha.

[avantre]

Piss ourselves from laughter, perhaps - bats don't rate high on the list of scary things in Australia (even for the cowardly and superstitious lot) unless you're a fruit farmer, as fruit bats are our most well known bat here. Now if he was Blue-Ringed-Octopusman or Funnel-Web-Spiderman or Brown-Snakeman, we might start quaking...

(Also, most of us got over the convict thing a long time ago - the majority of us look with amused pity on people who try to use that to insult us. It was 200 years ago guys, get a new insult.)

[lieut_kettch]

What about Irukandji Man?

"I am the terror that stalks your vacation! I am the inexplicable rash you got while swimming!"

[lieut_kettch]

"I am the reason you need your friends to piss on your leg!"

[dreamreaver]

lol, we deal with more dangerous shit on a regular basis, Batman isn't that scary at all.

[avantre]

Well to be fair - compared to Drop Bears, nothing seems scary anymore.

[terrykun]

Have you read about Australia? With the wildlife alone it's like living in a supervillain lair already. What's Batman going to do to them that they're not already risk of?

[terrykun]

Damn, video didn't embed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy_TB6onHVE

[terrykun]

...ah, so THAT'S why there's no Boomerang Renegade.

[batman]

Nah, it'd be hard to be offended when we take pride in our convict heritage.

Now, if you said we were all secretly Kiwis...

[q99]

Maybe it has to be for a serious crime?

Comic writers do tend to forget that people have more than two ancestors each generation... (see: The Waynes).

[althechi]

Then what sort of standard is there for a major crime versus a minor offence? Using my own country's penal code: getting into an affray would be serious already.

I also wonder how many generations back they count. I bet Y-chromosomal Adam beat the crap out of some his peers back in the day. =P

[q99]

Presumably ones they consider serious. Murder is the only one we know definitely qualifies.

Fucking Hell

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

I've bitched about this before, and I probably always will until someone at DC wakes the fuck up.

Eugenics strikes again!

Top is worried about being blacklisted because of his criminal ancestor. So what does he do?

He murders his teammate, frames an innocent man and then tries to murder an innocent woman to keep an innocent man in jail.

Golly, sure seems like they were wrong to black list him for his criminal ancestors!

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[darkblade]

"Did you think that maybe you were blacklisted because you are criminally insane and they just said that whole criminal ancestor thing to cover their own asses?"

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[janegray]

Motto ò_ò

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[jlbarnett]

It's not eugenics. It's merely based on the idea that people might feel something for their ancestors.

If they want to keep the timeline intact why would they give time travel technology to someone who has a reason to want to go back and change things?

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[q99]

That's a reason to change the past? Past grandparent, they've almost certainly never met them, and have only slightly more emotion invested in them than any other historically criminal, that is to say, practically none at all, most people nowadays would have to break out a book to name all of their great grandparents. If they pass the "doesn't meddle in the past for petty reasons," part of the check, then they should be fine.

"People who have evil parents/ancestors turn evil," is a theme that's cropped up in DC fairly often too. Even when it makes no sense, if someone has an evil parent they get to go through forced villainizations. Future Starmen apparently have an 'evil gene' that crops up occasionally due to having some villain ancestry in them too (that last for over *800 thousand years*), for a blatant example. Even characters who are supposed to be a direct subversion of it (like Cassandra Cain and Miss Martian) often get brief villainizations because they were "meant to be evil."

It's often fairly explicit, evil parents = evil kids.

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[darklorelei]

I'm seriously waiting for them to remember that they've retconned in an evil dad for Booster Gold.

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[silicondream]

If they want to keep the timeline intact why would they give time travel technology to someone who has a reason to want to go back and change things?

They don't want to keep the timeline intact. The Renegades approve of altering the past by erasing crimes from history; in this issue Commander Cold condemns Barry for not using his time-travel powers to fix the past.

And a "no criminal ancestry" rule wouldn't be particularly helpful for preventing people from messing with the past anyway. Of all the reasons to change the past--undo the Holocaust, prevent your beloved grandmother from getting cancer, prevent your enemies' parents from conceiving them--stopping your asshole great-great-great-grandfather from committing a crime isn't exactly the highest priority for most of us.

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[daningram.insanejournal.com]

Why would anyone care what their ancestors did hundreds of years ago?

[big_daddy_d]

Hot Pursuit looks like those Speed Cops that beat Wally's ass in Batman: The Brave and the Bold. I remember that beatdown well.

[mullon]

I thought Iris West was Asian. Or maybe I'm confusing Flash wives.

[curlyjo1]

You're thinking of Linda Park-West, Wally's wife.

[katzedecimal]

What Iris Allen was was old. She seems to have stolen Pied Piper's retro-aging Nivea cream.

[jaybee3]

Johns explained it away in Rebirth that the Speed Force slows down or reverses the aging process or some such. That's why Jay and Joan Garrick (canonically close to a 100) look 40 years younger than they are and why Iris has gotten younger now that Barry's back (as if the 30 years she spend raising her kids/grandkids in the future never happened).

[darkknightjrk]

True, but I believe her de-aging happened in Final Crisis--Barry vibrated the anti-life equation out of her with a kiss that de-aged her at the same time, as I recall.

[pyrotwilight]

When the Phantom Ranger comes a riding in shits going down.

[q99]

Interesting that WW's thing is being brought up.

[darkknightjrk]

Her and at I think Damian!Batman were brought up in the teaser for Flashpoint some months back.

[silverzeo]

No Kamen Ridier cracks?

[thanekos]

nah, he's something more in the Takara Tomy vein

[recognitions]

Sorry, I don't recognize this person.