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Entry tags:char: captain america/steve rogers, char: hulk/bruce banner, char: iron man/tony stark, char: red hulk/thaddeus thunderbolt ross, creator: gabriel hardman, creator: jeff parker, publisher: marvel comics, title: hulk
Hulk 25 and 26.



Iron Man vs. the Red Hulk!

Flashback to the climactic end of Fall of the Hulks:

(Red Hulk was General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross, for those who were living in a cave)


The end mirrors the end of World War Hulk, with Hulk and Steve Rogers coming to see Rulk in prison:



The prison was designed by Bruce Banner. Rulk is left in a zero-gravity chamber for three days, screaming and yelling that he knows he's too powerful to be left to rot.



Steve demands Rulk power down to human form. Then he hits him with a hypo.



Bruce says that he already beat Rulk at his full power. He doesn't need an edge against Ross. They glare at each other.



Bruce explains that the Intelligencia activated a program called "Scorched Earth". Doomsday weapons to destroy the world if they couldn't rule it. Steve says that he doesn't trust Rulk and that he'll be partnering up til Ross earns his trust again.

Since the first mission is some sort of make-people-robot-monsters (much like Omac) virus in Silicon Valley, Rulk will be working with Iron Man. Rulk arrives first.



SMACK PAGE!



Smack, smack.



Tony then gets smacked by the computer virus possessed people.

Hulk 26. Half page scan.

Rulk manages to convince Tony that he was, indeed, sent by Steve Rogers.



For the record, except for a few intensely stupid issues, I actually enjoyed Fall of the Hulks.



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q99: (pic#378463)


[personal profile] q99
2010-11-27 07:05 am UTC (link)
Funny thing how Ross was always after Hulk, and now almost everyone dislikes Red Hulk even more.

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badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE)


[personal profile] badficwriter
2010-11-27 07:25 am UTC (link)
The Hulk was always clearly angry..or stupid. And he had a history of avoiding killing, despite all the damage he caused. He also saved people many times.

Red Hulk murdered a SHIELD agent and (most believe) murdered General Ross too. He humiliated beloved heroes. He was working for murderous supervillains. He went on national television and declared he was taking over the country. He did all this knowingly, willingly, and in full possession of his senses.

If Rulk revealed his true identity now? Despite his honorable career, he WOULD be hung for treason.

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big_daddy_d: (Terry Bogard, Wild Wolf)


[personal profile] big_daddy_d
2010-11-27 09:24 am UTC (link)
Hung for treason? Shit, he'll suffer worst. He'll go down in history as the giant hypocrit that he is as well as one of America's greatest enemies. He'll be a huge disgrace the likes of which would have people vandalizing his grave and villainizing him in biopics. Alos, let's not forget Betty.

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big_daddy_d: (Terry Bogard, Wild Wolf)


[personal profile] big_daddy_d
2010-11-27 09:25 am UTC (link)
Oh the cruel, laughable irony.

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thokstar: Spot (Spot)


[personal profile] thokstar
2010-11-27 11:40 am UTC (link)
I liked that idea better when it was the climax of the episode "Patriot Act" in JLU.

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filkertom: (kevinkellme)


[personal profile] filkertom
2010-11-27 10:05 am UTC (link)
'Sfunny how hard Marvel has worked on quasi-rehabbing Norman Osborn into 616's version of Lex Luthor or somethin'... while they decided Thunderbolt Ross was just a huge, angry douchebag.

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stolisomancer: (akiyama)


[personal profile] stolisomancer
2010-11-27 12:17 pm UTC (link)
Right now, Jeff Parker and Greg Pak have the unpleasant job of cleaning up after Jeph Loeb. They're doing a lot better than you'd think.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2010-11-27 11:38 am UTC (link)
Have to say, I have minimal knowledge of the Red Hulk, and even less interest, but I'm unimpressed by Steve and Tony's complete failure to communicate, Tony drops a call from Steve? Really? Doesn't matter it's the start of a mission, end of a mission, or when you're having the best sex of your life... when STEVE ROGERS calls you, YOU PICK UP!

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fifthie: tastes the best (terezi loves red)


[personal profile] fifthie
2010-11-27 11:46 am UTC (link)
People tend to develop poor hearing when it comes to beating the hell out of Rulk.

I have to hand it to Marvel, they made Rulkie so wonderfully hateable that I can't help but love these comics where he's getting his ass kicked every issue.

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stolisomancer: (akiyama)


[personal profile] stolisomancer
2010-11-27 12:16 pm UTC (link)
Contextually, it's not that Tony deliberately dropped the call. It's that he's closing in on an area that's putting off heavy electromagnetic interference and it meant Steve's call didn't quite get through. He didn't actually hang up on Steve.

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big_daddy_d: (Scott Pilgrim)


[personal profile] big_daddy_d
2010-11-28 01:08 am UTC (link)
when you're having the best sex of your life

Actually that is the one allowable exception. :D

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jlroberson: (pic#4093302)


[personal profile] jlroberson
2010-11-28 04:06 am UTC (link)
Well, I seem to notice in other things that Tony and Steve haven't exactly been getting along, even now. (for good reason, however. Tony did some awful things, even if he can't remember them now)

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fifthie: tastes the best (terezi loves red)


[personal profile] fifthie
2010-11-27 11:44 am UTC (link)
That last line from Tony is so incredibly lolirony.

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aelflar: (IronHugs)


[personal profile] aelflar
2010-11-27 02:26 pm UTC (link)
I know, right? I was thinking, guys, you sure you don`t wanna hang out or something? Maybe share notes?

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(no subject) - [personal profile] badficwriter, 2010-11-27 10:59 pm UTC (Expand)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Groan!)


[personal profile] tacobob
2010-11-27 02:10 pm UTC (link)
I STILL WANNA KNOW what happens to Ross' mustache when he turns into the Red Hulk. Really. Does it just POOF away? Or is he wearing a snap on mustache? That's the real mystery.

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sir_razorback: (Razorback Orange Lantern)


[personal profile] sir_razorback
2010-11-27 03:14 pm UTC (link)
Hmm, lemme take a crack at this one.

The hair on his face is rooted back in his lips, and it's alot fleshier than his scalp. So when he transforms and gets bigger, his mustache is figuratively 'sucked-in', and pokes back out again when he deflates?

Heh... How would you like to see that special effect on a movie screen?

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crinos: (pic#371609)


[personal profile] crinos
2010-11-27 03:32 pm UTC (link)
Eh, in my rpg setting, I made General Ryker the Red Hulk (Makes more sense to me), and Ross is not a Hulk at all (If I do make him a Hulk, I'd make hm the version from that What if).

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[identity profile] an-idol-mind.livejournal.com
2010-11-27 11:55 pm UTC (link)
The Hulk's appearance is based on a psychological image of Banner's inner monster. In the past, when Banner has had a beard or other distinguishing feature, it disappeared when he became the Hulk with few exceptions.

In the case of Rulk, Ross thinks of himself as a Hulk and therefore imitates the Hulk's appearance upon transformation. Basically, he's a low-level shapeshifter.

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newnumber6: Ghostly being (ghost)


[personal profile] newnumber6
2010-11-28 03:06 pm UTC (link)
The mustache is where Ross stores all the red color when he's in human form. When he becomes Hulk, it has to flood into him. He has a special fast-acting nanodye that kicks in when he transforms back to humans, to coat it in grey color so that nobody suspects he has a massive red 'stache.

Side note: One part of Banner's body is always large and green.

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misterbug: (pic#686003)


[personal profile] misterbug
2010-11-27 10:39 pm UTC (link)
Wait...we have a big blue Abomination who never seems to get anything done despite his young, hip attitude and general stance of goodness...and a big red virile Hulk who brags about being the best at everything and hates everyone and is a bitter old man inside...

Do I smell a complicated political metaphor?

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stolisomancer: (akiyama)


[personal profile] stolisomancer
2010-11-27 11:51 pm UTC (link)
Rick is in his own back-up story in Parker's Hulk book these days, fighting giant monsters and saving Florida while having fun. He does a lot.

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jlroberson: (pic#4093302)


[personal profile] jlroberson
2010-11-28 04:10 am UTC (link)
I do not follow this book, but I have to say: I very much enjoyed what I saw here. And especially Tony doing what he does.

And after all, it's a grand Marvel tradition: heroes misunderstand each other, start fighting.

Oh, and Loeb: bite me. Bite us all. The writer whose job it is to ruin things needlessly.

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badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE)


[personal profile] badficwriter
2010-11-28 12:54 pm UTC (link)
The title has been enjoyable and well-written. Can't possibly last!

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recognitions: (this is what you get when you mess w/us)


[personal profile] recognitions
2010-11-29 06:43 pm UTC (link)
So are Bruce and Hulk still disparate personalities? Because it looks like they're pretty interchangeable at this point. Is Bruce able to switch back and fork from human to Hulk-form without any personality dissonance?

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badficwriter: Captain America holding hands with Iron Man-Let's not fight, let's get along (Cap/Iron Man-Let's not fight)


[personal profile] badficwriter
2010-11-29 10:54 pm UTC (link)
They are two different personalities in the Hulk title; though here, as I said, Bruce says I am the Hulk. Their shared desire to be a father to Skaar, help Betty, and beat their enemies has, so far, completely eliminated disagreements in their consciousness. Bruce has no problems going Hulk and letting him handle it, so..the Hulk doesn't feel the need to fight Banner.

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