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In Grim Hunt, Spidey turned down killing the recently resurrected Kraven (although it would have been more of a mercy-killing as Kraven was in a state of eternal suffering that could only be ended with Spidey killing him, but whatever) based on the psychic premonitions of the new Madame Web. More on that later.

The recent What If issue asks...what if Peter did kill Kraven? What would happen?

He would become the new Kraven.


There's a bit more in the story, with essentially Peter going crazy, killing off some of his enemies (hangs Norman Osborn in his jail cell with some webbing) and basically living like a wild animal.

This is par for the course with What In, which seems to show alternate paths with characters acting completely out of character. What's funny is the framing device used to tell the story is from the new Madame Web, tells the audience that this is what would have happened if Peter had not listened to her premonition...except in the original Grim Hunt storyline, her premonition was completely different. There Spider-Man had donned the future suit from #500 and had essentially become a Punisher-like vigilante. Which is similar I suppose, but not on the same level as "Becoming Kraven". 

Date: 2010-12-16 12:53 am (UTC)
kirke_novak: (Marvel: Spidey/JJJ)
From: [personal profile] kirke_novak
hangs Norman Osborn in his jail cell with some webbing

Yeah, craaaaaaazyyyyyy >_>

Date: 2010-12-16 01:04 am (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
Note the materials used to make his throne...or should I say 'trophies'?

Date: 2010-12-16 01:07 am (UTC)
greenmask: (Default)
From: [personal profile] greenmask
Hah! Good catch. Nice work, artist.

Date: 2010-12-16 10:35 pm (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Default)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
Oh god, now I can see it.

It's like there's a torpedo between his legs!

Date: 2010-12-16 01:09 am (UTC)
greenmask: (Default)
From: [personal profile] greenmask
The chained people seem a bit gratuitous.

StubblePeter makes me heh, though.

Date: 2010-12-16 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
"StubblePeter makes me heh, though."

I think it's because it looks like the type of stubble a 15 year-old who's just starting to grow hair there grows and he leaves it there to feel more "grown up."

Date: 2010-12-16 01:25 am (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
This artist is a wee bit minimalist (to bad effect - is chained blonde woman meant to be Kraven's daughter?) at times. See also his rather...oddly shaped faces in the poorly-named 'Origin of the Species'.

Date: 2010-12-16 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
"is chained blonde woman meant to be Kraven's daughter?"

Swear to Bog, when I first saw that, I thought--well, after I went, "He turns into Kraven? Seriously?"--"Hey Dinah, what are you doing in this different universe tied up like that?

Date: 2010-12-16 01:47 am (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
So they still can't conceive of Spidey, y'know, capturing Kraven and his cohorts and like, taking them to the police, along with some sort of evidence of their many crimes? It's pretty much A. murder or B. let get away scot free, that is your options now as a Marvels Superdoings-Heroguy?

Date: 2010-12-16 02:12 am (UTC)
bluefall: Commander Shepard exercising her ego (smug Shep)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
We call that the BioWare school of moral decisionmaking. Obviously Marvel's writers have been playing too much Mass Effect.

Date: 2010-12-16 01:49 am (UTC)
likeaminx: (Default)
From: [personal profile] likeaminx
Oh Marvel. You and your horrible, What ifs.

Date: 2010-12-16 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Am i the only one who wouldn't have it any other way? The crack is what makes it fun!

Date: 2010-12-16 07:51 am (UTC)
likeaminx: (Default)
From: [personal profile] likeaminx
But not when they're boring! /Eyes the Wolverine: Father What if

Date: 2010-12-16 01:59 am (UTC)
thanekos: Yoshikage Kira as Kosaku Kawajiri, after the second arrow. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
Pete the Hunter there should totally keep the glider running at low power the whole time, assuming he hasn't stripped it down; hoverthrone, baby.

(Love his little 'chained to the throne setup', there; Vlad's completely confused and Aloysha just doesn't care anymore.)

Date: 2010-12-16 02:36 am (UTC)
zechs80: (Mayuri)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
I kinda dug this what if. Hey it's better then what I got in so in the last two issues of Amazing :(

Date: 2010-12-16 03:17 am (UTC)
iconmuse: (Default)
From: [personal profile] iconmuse
Ok, honestly, I'd tap that. Unf.

Date: 2010-12-16 03:52 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Yeah, I think this What If is basically just a long extended Wet Dream of MJ's (or it would be if not for OMD). I half expect MJ to saunter in wearing a cat girl outfit.

"Oh mighty hunter, its time for you to tame your tiget. Rrowr!"

"Okay, everyone take five, I'll be right back."

Date: 2010-12-16 04:34 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
Only five minute? Pff, so much for the proportional stamina of a spider.

Date: 2010-12-16 04:38 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
No no, not five minutes; Five DAYS.

*Six days later, everyone is still waiting there.*

Gargan: They're never coming back are they?

Jessica: They are not.

Gargan:.... Okay then, whose up for stealing everything not nailed down and hocking it?

Jessica: You read my mind.

Date: 2010-12-16 04:52 am (UTC)
liara_shadowsong: (pwned)
From: [personal profile] liara_shadowsong
Now that interpretation would make sense!

Date: 2010-12-16 10:38 pm (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Default)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
How come MJ never wears a Black Cat costume, but Carlie does?

Date: 2010-12-16 10:56 pm (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
Answer: MJ is a distinguishable character, so there's no joke in it. Carlie has so little identity - and the writers were so aware of this - that Pete mistook her for the actual Black Cat when he first saw her in the suit, despite the facial and bodily differences.

Also Marvel does not like us.

Date: 2010-12-17 04:50 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Plus MJ and Felicia were kind of competing for Peter. It's kind of like, after they married, Betty would dress up as Veronica for Archie. It would be kind of...Awkward.

Plus the fact that Felicia once tried to beat the crap out of MJ in a jealous rage.

Date: 2010-12-16 04:37 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
So silly.

Date: 2010-12-16 04:40 am (UTC)
retro_nouveau: AARP Bruce (75)
From: [personal profile] retro_nouveau
Shouldn't the chained slaves be wearing gold lamé bikinis?

Date: 2010-12-16 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
I have to say, I would like to see the REAL Kraven handled like this. A sort of urban warlord, a chief of his own little enslaved back-alley tribe made up of defeated and demoralized enemies... that would be an interesting take on him. The whole 'big game hunter' thing is getting a little old; they should vary things.

Date: 2010-12-16 08:13 am (UTC)
ian_karkull: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ian_karkull
Obviously, the one who actually finally snapped in this reality is Carol Danvers, as she inexplicably started wearing Wonder Man's ugly ass jacket.

Date: 2010-12-16 03:57 pm (UTC)
selke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selke
Is that supposed to be Echo cosplaying as the Black Cat?

Date: 2010-12-16 04:36 pm (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
That's Kraven's wife. Peter scarred her face in Grim Hunt by sticking his hand to it and then ripping it off.

Date: 2010-12-17 05:31 am (UTC)
selke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selke
Seriously? O.o Jeez. I think I prefer thinking it's Echo.

Date: 2010-12-16 10:40 pm (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Default)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
The art and writing in this were unattractive. It seemed like just a bunch of images somebody thought would be interesting thrown together with a loose this-happened-next storyline.

It is pretty standard for What Ifs, though.


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