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After the events of Thunderbolts #150 and before the events of #152, there's #151.

The events of #150 and what #152's leading into are and seem to be based on the existing history of characters; #151 focuses on the Ghost, who hasn't had much of one beyond being a fervent destroyer of corporations (and, recently, a conspiracy nut.)

It's a pretty good origin story as these things go, even if it does make you think about just how necessary an origin really is for certain characters.

Bored, manipulative Moonstone:

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Flight lets you navigate personal space in interesting ways, I see.

And so does the Ghost, who takes time off from his surely-secret-message-laden crossword to tell the transparent player of head games his story:

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It's always interesting to see the life of any character, years before they do what you know them for; there's usually such a divide between then and now, like the idea that once upon a time, the Ghost carpooled to work with people he was vaguely friendly with.

So what're his obviously manipulative bosses plying him for, you ask?

To put him on a vaguely defined project which, it turns out, he's more than capable of doing:

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(Shifting electric signals into another dimension to increase your cache/register size; I'm just gonna take that as the effect of a technological community laden with super-science.)

So there's the makings of his future abilities, sliding timescale-tastic that they are; it makes sense that the Ghost's one of those self-made villains, anyway.

Things proceed as expected in an origin, with our nameless friend's romantic and work life on a meteoric rise.

Omnisapient has their new toy to go public with, and the not-yet-Ghost has a relationship going..

..which is prematurely terminated by a gas explosion, leaving the protagonist's too solid self to find an outlet for his depression.

Literally, thanks to some inventive body modding, he retreats into:

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And, thanks to what is presumably someone's plans for future blackmail, discovers a truth that he's long since taken to heart:

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Goes a long way to explaining his anti-corporate mindset, doesn't it?

Explains his paranoia, if nothing else; he's already been the target of a conspiracy.

So as is the tradition in this kind of thing, revenge happens, and a Ghost is born to strike against structures that would engineer such manipulative conditioning for the purpose of exploitation.

A Ghost who ends his story with more than a few jabs at Moonstone.

" Congratulations. You now know more about me than anyone else alive. "

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Not sure why she's shocked; I guess she just can't deal with madness not backed by conventional rationale.

And so he drifts off, leaving us with an origin whose veracity is just a bit in doubt.

Speaking of origins, the issue ends with a new Thunderbolt to replace Crossbones, one whose origin also hasn't meant much to what he's done but whose history makes him a good replacement:

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Did not see him coming, I'll be honest.

Should be interesting to see what's done with him, since there's not really much to build off for him, is there?

.. you know, how did no one ever contrive a Hyperion/Sentry fight? You'd think someone would have.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:06 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Well, there's a power upgrade.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:12 pm (UTC)
ian_karkull: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ian_karkull
You beat me to it. Ghost is one of my favourite villains and Parker's work with him has been stellar so far.
The origin story itself however is a little bit.. pedestrian for my tastes. Did it really have to be about unrequitted love? Ghost is the greatest, most paranoid conspiracy theorist in the world, they coulnd't let him discover that his employers where actually part of some sinister global conspiracy, planning to use his work in a diabolical scheme to take over the world?
That would have been a little more dignified, imho. But no, it really had to be about the hurt feelings of a lonely, socially inept nerd..? To say nothing of the fridgeing aspect of the whole thing.
For shame.

On the plus side, the panel of Ghost meticulously solving crossword puzzles cracks me up every time. Just look at how concentrated his little lenses glow!
If only I had some decent photoshop skills, this would totally make the best icon ever.

On a sidenote, I can not, for the life of me, figure out which Hyperion this is supposed to be.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:15 pm (UTC)
stolisomancer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
There's only one Hyperion on 616, I think, and it's the original Mark Gruenwald version. I have no idea why he's in the Vault, though.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:35 pm (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
Blue Marvel fought some Hyperion that was tearing up Russia in Age of Heroes 3. I think its supposed to be that one, King Hyperion I think.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:57 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The Mark Gruenwald one from Squadron Supreme is back on the original SS Earth isn't he, went back along with the other Squadders during the Busiek/Perez Avengers run?

This would be the one from the new Squadron Sinister the Grandmaster cooked up.

Date: 2010-12-20 12:01 am (UTC)
stolisomancer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
Oh, okay. That makes more sense. I managed to miss quite a few issues of Thunderbolts right before they went back to the old numbering.

Date: 2010-12-20 12:05 am (UTC)
ian_karkull: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ian_karkull
Hey, yeah! I remembered the Busiek/Perez run (which was what had me confused in the first place), but forgot all about the Squadron Sinister. That makes sense, thanks.

Date: 2010-12-20 12:13 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Third panel, first scan, that is one SERIOUSLY weirdly posed Moonstone... and may I go on record as thinking that that is one fugly costume, whatever happened to her nifty armoured looking looks, or even her original outfit, which was at least different, this is just... bland and generic.

Date: 2010-12-20 12:26 am (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
That "I...I think" panel makes it look like she's popped out of her costume entirely and hasn't noticed yet.

Date: 2010-12-20 12:31 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Well she has intangibility powers, so you never know I suppose...

Date: 2010-12-20 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hybrid2
That would make sence.except I think it's supose to be King Hyperion,from Exiles,with hair,because the writer did'nt like him bald and apparently less psyco.Or not.

dunno who wrote the Blue Marvel storie,in age of heroes but he confused everyone.

The Squadron Sinister one is a much better fit.

Date: 2010-12-20 01:21 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
There actually is a Hyperion in the main Marvel universe?

I thought the Squadron Supreme were always from an alternate universe.

Date: 2010-12-20 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] wonderwomanhero
First pic, first panel
Is Moonstone flying upwards, yet facing backwards ala the exorcist? kinda looks like that at first glance.

Date: 2010-12-20 03:33 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
I just love that before he opens up Ghost is doing a crossword puzzle,. like he couldn't care less what Moonstone has to say.

Date: 2010-12-20 04:02 am (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
Oh god Hyperion.

Date: 2010-12-20 05:07 am (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
Interesting to see which Hyperion this is the King Hyperion Blue Marvel stopped in Age of Heroes #3 or the plain Squadron Sinister one.

Date: 2010-12-20 06:09 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
It could one of like 4 Hyperions.

Probably too much to ask for MAXverse Milton though.

Date: 2010-12-20 06:10 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
1. Ghost is a very fun, old-school villain. Don't change him.

2. Hyperion? Awesome, let's see how that flies.

Date: 2010-12-20 06:59 am (UTC)
sherkahn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sherkahn
Backup. I know I have indulged on other comics (thanks to scans_daily) and let other slide, but what happened to Crossbones?

Date: 2010-12-20 08:26 am (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Default)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
It's never been good since JMS dumped it. Better left alone.

Date: 2010-12-20 08:29 am (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Default)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
So which is it?

Is he unimpressed by Moonstone or just felt like sharing?

Date: 2010-12-20 09:44 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
you know, how did no one ever contrive a Hyperion/Sentry fight? You'd think someone would have.

Closest to a Sentry/Superman fight as you'll get that's for sure.

Date: 2010-12-20 09:45 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
I loved that had potential..the only proof of it's life is Zarda sticking around in the Ultimate Marvel U.

Date: 2010-12-20 02:16 pm (UTC)
sir_mikael: (Barrowman)
From: [personal profile] sir_mikael
Interesting. Ghost has worked for a very long time without origin. But yeah this could work.

Oh I was so confused before I realized the blacked out words must have been his real name and not some profanity. I thought he was reviled yet important and just couldn't mix those two in his own head/narration so he pretended he was appreciated. But it was still a bizarre read.
Obviously it reminded me of a certain classic meme.

Date: 2010-12-20 07:59 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
She's propelling herself backwards so her hair is trailing in front of her face.

Date: 2010-12-21 08:07 pm (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
"We're the Kohlman brothers, and the Kohlman sister, Dana!"

Date: 2011-01-04 02:57 am (UTC)
bwhahahabeck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bwhahahabeck
Ugh, late comment, but I just have to add how crappy this origin for Ghost is.


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