Mike Deodato and Howard Chaykin's New Avengers #9

[nova_prime]

Take a look at "New Avengers #9" that sees Mike Deodato and Howard Chaykin on art. Immonen is doing the "Fear Itself" event. Always been a fan of Deodato's!

Full preview at Cosmic Book News.

Comments

[jarodrussell]

I'm going to guess I'm not lucky enough that when Mockingbird says, "Doctor, move in," she's talking to everyone's favorite Time Lord.

[stolisomancer]

Wow, they're dusting off the old Mark Gruenwald characters. Nice.

Bendis Speak

[blue_bolt]

No one using pentasyllabic words - Check.
Crappy jokes ("Luke Cage: Impatient Man") - Check.
Good or Decent art ruined by crappy dialogue - Check.

Bendis! Hi how are you? Please stop writing for Marvel, DC or anyone else I might read. Or you know, end up trapped in one of your comics - that's how you think everyone speaks right? So you might actual feel comfortable there.

Re: Bendis Speak

[valtyr]

What's so great about words with five syllables?

"Luke Cage: Impatient Man"

Oh man, that was meant to be a joke? :(

Re: Bendis Speak

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

Apparently they're the benchmark by which smart people are judged.

Notice how in his comment the only pentasyllabic word was "pentasyllabic".

Re: Bendis Speak

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

Also, I chuckled at "Luke Cage: Impatient Man", even as I groaned, so it clearly was a success on some level

Re: Bendis Speak

[valtyr]

I just don't get how it's a joke?

Re: Bendis Speak

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

She's making it sound like a superhero name. So instead of Power Man, he's Impatient Man. It's one of those things that aren't inherently funny, but gain a measure of humour from the context. In this case, context being that Luke Cage, the big, strong, scary Power Man, is whining impatiently and is scolded in a joking way by his wife.

Re: Bendis Speak

[valtyr]

Oh. I have to say, I think that's a shitty joke. It would probably be funnier if said right, but as words on a page it doesn't work very well.

Re: Bendis Speak

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

Not any shittier than Spider-Man's quipping. It's basically the same thing.

Re: Bendis Speak

[valtyr]

Well, depends who write it. I often like Bendis, I am still squeeful over the last issue of Prime, but in my opinion, this is fairly low-grade banter and a bad joke. Hey, if you like it, great.

(Also, I'm a bit confused by the order of the speech bubbles, I'm not sure who Carol's responding to there.)

Re: Bendis Speak

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

I think Jessica.

Re: Bendis Speak

[valtyr]

So it's down the left hand side, down the right hand side, and then the ones at the bottom. Huh. It reads awkward; Ben's 'best part' line is clearly a response to Jessica's line, but he's already responded to that with "I'm with Cage."

Oh wait. Maybe it's across the top, ending with "I'm with Cage" and then sort of diagonally across the middle - Jessica then Danny - then the bottom.

I guess I just don't like this page much.

Re: Bendis Speak

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

I think it goes:

"Let's just pounce on them!" (Luke)
"Luke Cage: Impatient Man." (Jessica)
"Really." (Carol)
"I'm with Cage." (Ben)
"You used to be a private eye, Jessica; you're used to doing a stakeout." (Danny)
"I love a stakeout. This is the best part." (Jessica)
"The best part is the clobbering." (Ben)
"Hold on... Sshhh..." (Logan)
"What's going on, Logan?" (Jessica)
"Sshh, means shhhh!!" (Logan)

It's fairly intuitive, in my opinion. Across the top, with priority given to vertical speech bubble combinations, then across the bottom with the same caveat.

Also, the spell checker accepts "combination", but not "combinations". Fail.

Re: Bendis Speak

[valtyr]

Huh, I assumed Danny was responding to Jessica, but that makes sense and is probably it. IDK, obviously I disagree with you it's intuitive, as I couldn't figure it out. :)

Re: Bendis Speak

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

Well, the same convention of ordering speech bubbles is used in manga (although obviously right to left rather than left to right), which I read a lot of, so I'm used to it.

Re: Bendis Speak

[fifthie]

Nah, Spider-Man's quipping is often good, whereas this is not.

[lucky_gamble]

Hate to be in the receiving end of that team. Also...doesn't anyone notice a large orange golem-like being standing on a nearby rooftop?

[stolisomancer]

The old superhero-comic joke is that people don't look up, but really, how often do you look up when you're in a major metropolitan area?

[midnightvoyager]

A lot.

...I live in Alabama so... er. Not used to it, heh.

[01d55]

This is a game design fact: If you put the solution to your puzzle on the ceiling of a 3-d environment, many players will give up before they look up. Valve had a hell of a time making Portal playable for those people (visual cues work).

[keeva]

That's Luke Cage?

Why is he pink?

[blackruzsa]

Check your screens (?) Just a suggestion. I don't see much pink....
Then again, I might be the one with the problem so...

[nezchan]

Looks like it's to account for sunset light, so he's a little redder than usual. Looks fine until you realize that Logan's arms are the same colour.

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

I see Luke's skin as dark bronze here, while Wolvie's is more pinkish. Unless you're comparing Logan's shadowed arm to Luke's lighted one.

[nezchan]

Nope, I was looking at forward arms for both of them. But it's a full effect of shadowed and lit that works out for Luke, I just assume he should be a wee bit darker even in that light.

[karthzon.livejournal.com]

Yeah, he's lighter skinned here than he's usually drawn. May just be the lighting, though.

[misterbug]

Much cleaner Deodato than usual. Less blockiness in the shading. I like it.

[jcbaggee]

Sooooooooooooo Danny's keeping the white costume?

[akodo_rokku]

I have always liked white and gold together.

[tacobob]

That's Howard Chaykin's art? Really? It doesn't look like his style...Doesn't look horrible. What gives?

[wizardru]

Judging from the order presented, I'm guessing that this is Chaykin's inks over Deodato's pencils.

[wizardru]

Yeah, I want to like this, but I can't. I'm not feeling regret at having dropped this following issue 3. Like the characters, don't even mind the banter...but some stuff really grates. It kind of feels like Bendis is trying to write the Giffen/DeMatties JLI, here. And he's not that funny a writer for it to work. I thought the 'Impatient Man' quip worked in context, but the Superia comments? Stop that.

Also, while the artwork is not bad....some of it is really distracting. Jessica and Mockingbird aren't wearing spandex, but look at how Mock's outfit is hugging her. Does every female character have to look like a pornstar?

Also, I guess after being shot by the Red Skull, Superia got better?

[ian_karkull]

Those sure are a lot of people in civvies to be the Avengers. Looks like they where going out for dinner when they stopped to spy on a random supervillain..

Speaking of which, Superia? Really? Well, if she makes them fight her in their underwear again I ain't complainin'.

[bruinsfan]

Hey, Ben's already a step ahead of her!

[fajrdrako]

I love that! Especially Ben's "The best part is the clobbering." And I love it that Spider-Man is the one who is quiet.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to this.