Huntress and Arsenal. 1 page from outsiders volume 3 issue 12

[requiem2adream]

I have a question about Huntress and Arsenal's one night stand so of course I turn to the lovely ladies and gents of scans_daily to hopefully find the answer.

The first I heard of it was in BoP: Dinah, Babs and Helena are meeting in a park to discuss whether or not they can work together as a team and the subject of Helena's one night stands with Dick and Roy comes up and Helena has the brilliant line 'Archers... they pull a mighty bow but they're quick to let fly'. Which of course pisses Dinah off royally and nearly ends the team before it even begins.

I went back and read the Outsiders issues where Helena takes Roy's place on the team while he recovers from being shot, thinking that would be where I could find the Huntress/Arsenal stuff (I'm a massive Huntress fan and I've been trying to track down and read pretty much everything she's been in because yes I am obsessive) but apart from the kiss at the end




there's not really any interaction between the two and certainly no sexy times going on between the pair.

So folks my question is this: is this the first time it's ever referenced or is does the Helena/Roy stuff happen in different issues to the ones I've been reading? 

Comments

[benicio127]

The other thing about Winick's writing of her that I hate is when Helena says to Nightwing, "The rest of the team is okay. Except Grace. She's a total bitch."

Ugh, seriously? Unimpressed.

I'm not fond of the scene where the birds all talk about who slept with who. I understand the purpose of the scene, to show how the nascent team was still quite fragile, but the slut shaming just pisses me off.

Which issue is this?

[cuntfucius]

Winick seems to love using the word bitch. 8|

[benicio127]

Hmm, yeah, I've seen it in Powergirl at least once already, but he's not the only one. I fondly recall an "I'm Donna Troy, bitch!" LOL

P.S. Where have you been? :O :):):)

[cuntfucius]

Lol let's not even get into how much Donna is using that word in Robinson's JLA (along with "cow", "witch" and any other gendered slur she can toss around. )

I ... had to take a long break from comic fandom because it was pissing me off, hahaha. WHENEVER I HAVE TROUBLE SLIPPING INTO THE MODE OF NOT TAKING THINGS SERIOUSLY I feel like it's time to step away for a while. :) I'm slowly making my return (and will get back on tumblr soon!). I still stalk you all ;)

[benicio127]

Lol let's not even get into how much Donna is using that word in Robinson's JLA (along with "cow", "witch" and any other gendered slur she can toss around. )

Oh, yeah, I read the issue with her and Jenny and was like whoa, what? LOL At least it's not Sarah Palin Donna? ....Poor Donna. :(

I still stalk you all ;)

:D:D:D

[thebigapricot]

You're back! And just in time for Donna's big issue in JLA which I just posted about and, of course, thought of you!

[cuntfucius]

♥ YOU WARM MY HEART. I'll be making a return to tumblr soon enough, I didn't know people actually noticed me missing haha

[cuntfucius]

Oh, and Bea and Tora have used the word in their exchanges four times now. COUNTING.

[benicio127]

Oh I forgot about that! Though, I remember at one point Tora said something like "I was worried you were going to die on me, you &$*#" to Bea, so I thought it was something like "you shit!" because it was only four symbols, not five.
Which I kind of feel is a bit more acceptable, I don't really like calling other women bitch or cunt. Jerk, jackass -- I totally use those liberally among friends. I have a friend who calls girls bitch in a friendly way, but I'm still not a fan. And then again, swear words in general coming from Bea would be like swear words coming from Donna. Just... weird and off.

[bluefall]

Well, considering everything else Winick has been doing with Tora...

[benicio127]

Oh God, I know, that flashback to her past? Uggggggggggggggggggh how is it that the person who writes two of my favourite characters -- Jason Todd and Mia Dearden -- and writes my favourite version of Talia al Ghul can't be consistent on these other characterizations?! :( :(

(And Ooops I realised I accidentally wrote Bea up there when I meant Tora)