Huntress and Arsenal. 1 page from outsiders volume 3 issue 12

[requiem2adream]

I have a question about Huntress and Arsenal's one night stand so of course I turn to the lovely ladies and gents of scans_daily to hopefully find the answer.

The first I heard of it was in BoP: Dinah, Babs and Helena are meeting in a park to discuss whether or not they can work together as a team and the subject of Helena's one night stands with Dick and Roy comes up and Helena has the brilliant line 'Archers... they pull a mighty bow but they're quick to let fly'. Which of course pisses Dinah off royally and nearly ends the team before it even begins.

I went back and read the Outsiders issues where Helena takes Roy's place on the team while he recovers from being shot, thinking that would be where I could find the Huntress/Arsenal stuff (I'm a massive Huntress fan and I've been trying to track down and read pretty much everything she's been in because yes I am obsessive) but apart from the kiss at the end




there's not really any interaction between the two and certainly no sexy times going on between the pair.

So folks my question is this: is this the first time it's ever referenced or is does the Helena/Roy stuff happen in different issues to the ones I've been reading? 

Comments

[icon_uk]

The implication I get from this is that they've only just had their sex-but-not-a-thing during this time period.

[harpers_child]

i've always found roy's whole "i grab every chance to sleep with amazing women" thing to be very much my own sentiments. although given the way he's staring at nightwing's ass maybe he should drop the women part of that line. no need to limit yourself to just the women, roy.

[thelazyreader]

Funnily enough this may be one of the most natural one-night-stands in superhero comics, because Huntress and Arsenal are like opposite-gender versions of each other in the 'will sleep with anyone who's hot' aspect.

[kirke_novak]

I have absolutely nothing of substance to add, except for: BRITTANA! \o/

[shadowpsykie]

am i the only one who thinks Dick is a little jealous

maybe its just this community but his "Is there anyone you WONT sleep with" came out like either "Roy, YOU bitch, i thought i was the only one," or "Dammit Roy, why won't you LOVE ME!"

[darrylayo]

Whoa dude, am I supposed to read that page "manga style?"

The reading order is all over the goddamn place.

[sharky_chan]

All I can say is Helena's waist is really freaking me out in those panels. It's like the artist learned anatomy from Liefeld comics and forgot her internal organs. She'll probably need those at some point...

[aaron_bourque]

This was before the threesome with Hal Jordan and Lady Blackhawk, right?

[heckfiresinferno.blogspot.com]

Huh...lemme guess, Winick wrote this, right?

[tsunamiwombat]

No one seems to be able to characterize Helena correctly when it comes to romance and sex...

Also, ew, Soulpatch

[jaybee3]

As I've said before - this one scene did more damage to Huntress's reputation (and is the primary source of the "She Gets Around" mention she's in under TV Tropes) since prior to this she was never presented as a casual sex with no feelings kind of person (she had a one-night stand with Dick yes but there were hardly "no feelings" there and Devin Grayson even seemed to be building up to something more when she had Dick when he visited her at New Year's).

Now, thanks to Winick, all of a sudden she'll go to bed with anyone - whether it be Roy or Josh the parking attendant who treated her like a piece of meat (though I think Gail was actually using that to move Helena away from this characterization). Prior to her "guest" appearance in Outsiders she had not only never seen to be the slightest bit interested in Roy - she had never had scenes with him, and after this (aside from the BoP mention which seemed like another Gail meta-comment on this Outsiders thing) she never mentions him again - and has had no scenes with him since.
Winick basically brought her onto the book just for this. So she could be used as a sexual sparring joke between Roy and Dick (who've both slept with her - ha, ha, right, Judd). It's not even about her.

Winick does that a lot. Reading back the Lost Days of Red Hood mini he sexed up Talia more than she had ever had been before (she has sex with nameless minion AND Jason in story where she's a supporting character) and the whole point of the story seemed to be getting to Jason and Talia having sex. Literally that was the climax (pardon the pun) of the entire mini-series and what it seemed all to be building up to. And just like this Outsiders story it was a story about the GUY where the woman in question is basically used as a prop and nothing more.

In case anyone missed I really, really, REALLY hate this story.

[jeyl]

So the moral here is that monogamy is bad?