Wow! I never thought I see this in comics....

[silverzeo]

With Palin still in the news, Blue water Comics made a sequel comic for her... remember the first one, with the "Not Jiminy Cricket" narrating about her life. Well, the preview for it included something that I never expected from comics... they actual talk about how Obama isn't such a great president.







I am not posting this out of political reasons, as I am a republican myself, but that's not the case here. I cam posting because we all experiance the Obama-Hype in comics. Savage Dragon, Youngblood, Spider-Man, Athena, and other company and characters tried to milk the people's love of Obama... though I am sure the majority who bought the Obama issue of Spider-Man were trying to get rich via 90s promotional schemes (hologram foil covers and such BS). But still, I didn't expect to find this in a comic..... your thoughts?

Comments

[crinos]

Hmm, its always hard for me to talk about political stuff, because I don't like to step on other peoples toes, if I offend anyone, I apologize.

That being said; being a democrat myself, I voted for Obama (if only cause I didn't care for McCain or Palin), and I did kind of expect him to fix stuff.

But as it turns out he's just another politician who gets nothing done. If nothing else it can be said he hasn't made anything worse, and he hasn't had any major fuck ups like Bush did. He just hasn't lived up to the hype.

Personally though, I also blame the Democratic party itself; since they're so busy trying to please everyone and infighting, they NEVER GET ANYTHING FUCKING DONE.

Look at the Healthcare reform. Up until Ted Kennedy died they had an unfillerbusterable majority in the house. They literally couldn't lose, AND THEY STILL COULDN'T PASS IT. Then when they last the majority, it took nearly a year of arguing, and compromising, and bullshit to finally get it passed.

And yesterday, the now republican controlled house voted to repeal it, with all the Republicans voting unanimously to pass it.

So damn you Democrats with your wishy washyness and infighting, and damn you Republicans with your evil alien hive mind powers. All politics are rubbish as far as I'm concerned.

For the record, I'm on the Medicaid, so the Healthcare bill didn't affect me when it was enacted and it wont affect me now that its gone. I'm still sucking on the Government teat. :)

[glimmung]

Having the health care repeal pass the house means nothing. It was a safe action by the Repubs as there is no chance of it passing the Senate nor the president.

[crinos]

Point taken.

[brandiweed.livejournal.com]

Keep in mind that House Reps propose (and sometimes even pass) bullshit stuff on a regular basis, and the Senate (such as it is) usually gives them the reality check.

[glimmung]

It is actually a pretty standard tactic for reps to appeal to this or that demographic by voting for completely idiotic legislation that they know will not pass. Just part of the game.

[valtyr]

But as it turns out he's just another politician who gets nothing done. If nothing else it can be said he hasn't made anything worse, and he hasn't had any major fuck ups like Bush did. He just hasn't lived up to the hype.

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

[crinos]

heh, this site I like. Thank you.

[rebecky-mo.livejournal.com]

I think I'mma save this link, to go with this one.

[roguefankc]

Thank you.

I need a site like that.

[glimmung]

God the obsession with pork is absolutely moronic. Pork makes up tiny portion of the budget and in many cases is not actually a bad thing.

Balancing the budget is in theory relatively easy.

• Increase the age at which people receive Social Security.

Social Security has not kept pace with demographic changes. People live too long.

• Cut Military Spending.

The US spend more on its military than the rest of the world combined

• Increase Taxes

The problem is there is no political will to do any of those let alone all of them.

[glimmung]

Sheesh.
The style sheet for this page needs some upgrades.

[01d55]

Life expectancy figures don't have the impact on social security that one might intuit, because much of the gains in life expectancy have been from people not dying before they reach working age.

For the income brackets that really need social security, life expectancy at the time of retirement has not changed very much.

Also, it's Medicare, not Social Security, that's been growing gangbusters in cost.

Paul Krugman's on top of this, you can search his blog archive for details.

Agreed that the Defense budget is totally ridiculous.

[glimmung]

Ah thanks.

That makes a lot of sense. Most of the standard childhood killers have been knocked back by immunization.

I wonder what the life expectancy of people who actually make it to retirement is. Removing all of the people who die at 40 and whatnot.

[mullon]

I thought this series was supposed to be about propping up whoever the subject was, regardless of their faults. That's why the Stephanie Meyer issue was lacking in the phrase "Not fit to wipe your ass with."

[mistersandman]

Theoretically, these pages are propping up Sarah Palin, the subject of this particular comic.

[mullon]

One of these days I got to start reading what people post.

[mistersandman]

It's fine, you wouldn't want to read a comic that was explicitly more pro-Palin. Trust me on this.

[turtlefu]

That's right Obama, you, a single human being, is the whole reason and deserves the blame for ALL of our nations problems!

I hate it when people play the blame game, because I've studied history enough to know everything has at least SEVERAL reasons for happening.

[silverzeo]

I am more impress how 180 comics did with Obama. First they all tried to get his face on the cover of all their books, then Marvel seem to hide his face as best as they can, and now this book says how he failed the expectations of the people...

[keeva]

Looks like the comics writers are just trying to appeal to the stupider half of the country this time around.

Oh, well.

[jazzypom]

I'd say something, but not American, and uhhh... no, can't do it today.

Re: Oh, well.

[benicio127]

Hahahah same.

Today is another day, and now I can.

[jazzypom]

The amount of blowback I've seen Obama getting from the Professional Left, the liberal whites on various blogs has been wearying.

Let's not even go to the Republicans, who gave the world Sarah Palin, and tried to push the meme that Palin's six colleges in five years (or five colleges in six years?) was in the same breath as Obama's Harvard law degree. Or when, in their quest for American 'exceptionalism' dumbed down the VP segment and with that all she could do was pipe, 'drill baby drill' and wink.

I remember when Regan (father of America according to the GOP) put forth the notion of the Welfare Queen as a black woman just popping out kids like frogs laying spawn (when the stats show that more white people are on welfare than blacks), and the 'voodoo' economics. OMG. The OIlie North scandal (thank you, Enquirer), the school for South American dictators that the Repubs set up and sponsored. OMG.

My relatives, when Regan died, they did a soft shuffle, that's how bad that guy was.

That's not even speaking about Bush II and his eight years of recklessness when the GOP stayed mum on tax cuts, and getting into two wars and now that Obama has the mess to clean up every single white tea party member is all, "It took Obama to help me find my voice" and when you ask them where their full throated disapproval was when Bush II was spending their surplus (that Clinton left behind OMG) like a drunken sailor on leave, they go, "But he was Christian."

Same thing with Sarah Palin, and her 'taking back America for real Americans!' and people explaining that well, she means an America without migrants and when I go, "You mean, the First Peoples? The ones who've said that Obama has been the first President to take their concerns on board?" they ignore that point and go on.

Not saying that Obama is perfect- no. There are things that I wish he'd have stood firmly on, but the GOP is the party of 'no' and not much else. But he's pretty much held to a different standard than his white Presidential predecessors. Obama can't go all 'Suge knight' because he will get the 'angry black man' treatment. He's called soft, and people make assumptions about his manhood because he refuses to go all stereotype. Or him extending tax cuts because the GOP would have moved to slash benefits for the unemployed.

In addition, Fox news (and the reason why I wish Murdock will stay the hell away from any British media, because I've seen what Fox news represents to a certain sort of embittered segment of the population) and it's coverage of everything Obama has pretty much put a bad taste in my mouth, as well as being Palin's employer and public relations mouthpiece.

So yeah, between the media, the GOP, the teaparty funded by the Koch brothers, Republican squillionaires who have a vested interest in seeing Obama's policies fail, even at the cost of making America's economy even more toxic? Or Ailies, head of Fox news, aka GOP talking points tannoy making propaganda instead of actual news? When GOP senators can actually tell the POTUS, "You lie!" without respect for his office? Or Boehner can turn down state dinners with the Chinese head of state (the one who's going to drink America's milkshake, they will... drink it up!) so he can get his (alleged) drank on? Or Limbaugh the pied piper of the GOP doing a racist mockery of how the Chinese head of state spoke? Or McCain against DADT even though it puts gay personnel at a disadvantage to their straight counterparts?

I'm surprised that Obama has been able to do anything at all.

I'm just surprised that after eight years of Bush, two years of tea party candidates (who are now in the Senate and don't want to give up that good gov'ment health care they now have - principles that they got in power for be damned... so soon), that Republicans have the gall to consider themselves a moral majority and ready to go all tsk, tsk, tsk.

Ah, Palin. The woman who the American MSM just wouldn't vet. The one who can see Russian from her house. The one who, when it came time to comfort the grievers in Tuscan, Ariz, made the moment all about her and bandied the term 'blood libel' like it was no thang.

Right, I gotta go. Stick a fork in me because I am done.

Re: Today is another day, and now I can.

[benicio127]

Daaaamn :)

I'm not American, but I do follow U.S. politics, but not nearly to the extent I follow Canadian politics, obviously. But from what I've read, seen and heard, he's certainly not sitting around with his thumbs up his ass.
But I don't really feel like getting into it (I just don't have the energy to defend the politics of a country that's not my own), as I also feel it's more off-topic than anything, really. (Even though I think you had some important things to say!)

Well yeah, same here

[jazzypom]

My thing is, I have relatives in the US, and I've seen their fortunes being affected from Regan onwards. In addition to that, with say Murdoch and Fox, and now his looking to get Sky and the rest over here, I do wonder. Suppose we get our first poc PM - and the way how the wind blows, it might be an Asian one, would Murdoch's Sky then start putting in stuff like Jihad? Or...?

I know that the cultures are different, and with Aunty (BBC) to buffer the madness of the more extreme newscasting (I find that Sky over here isn't as extreme as Fox , but I'm wary when I have to watch Sky over say, BBC). But I've seen Murdoch's paw prints on The Sun and The Times and how they were shilling for Cameron - hard. So yeah, constant vigilance for me.

I also feel it's more off-topic than anything, really

True, which is why I'm just going to knit now, yes...

Re: Well yeah, same here

[recognitions]

Reagan.

Cheers for the correction

[jazzypom]

'Reagan'.

Alas, I can't change the post since people have responded to it.

Gahh, grammar fail.

[jazzypom]

its coverage, not it's coverage. Gahhh.

[mynondw]

It doesn't really surprise me to see this sort of thing in a pro-Palin comic. I don't think Blue Water counts as a mainstream title, really. They have a niche market and they write for that. That's fine.

Though I confess it does upset me to see Obama getting the blame for 8 years of failed Republican policies.

[brandiweed.livejournal.com]

It's the Karl Rove strategy combined with Freudian projection of such intensity you'd think we could broadcast an image on the moon with it.

[philippos42]

Yeesh. "Pork barrel" is such a shibboleth here. In fact a lot of pork barrel spending manages to create jobs for the working joe, directly or indirectly. Far more than the supposed magic of tax cuts.

Active stimulus is usually more constructive than passive stimulus. But one problem is that we ran huge deficits for ages, & were actually sort of over-stimulated. We needed the taxes to fund the entitlements we ran, & we went for debt and an inflated bond market instead. Another problem is that now the solution on many lips is "austerity" which will hurt a lot of people who are already underpaid & overleveraged. At some point we need to make the small group financiers who control half the nation's wealth feel some of the bite themselves instead of trying to throw it off on others.

But yeah, Obama isn't all that great. Neither was Bush, neither--I think--would have been Romney or McCain--nor Palin.

I used to be GOP, but now I think we need more Kucinich types & fewer of the Reagan-idolizing pretty-boys & boll weevils that dominate the GOP.

[philippos42]

I should say that Obama is apparently less laissez-faire than Bush on some environmental & regulatory issues, and in the present climate (ahem) that's useful.

[goblinthebamf]

oh.

[psychopathicus_rex]

Personally, I still believe in Obama. I think he has genuinely good intentions and is a competent enough politician; he just had terrible timing as to when he ran for president. He got saddled with this whole economic debacle we're still suffering through, plus a whole bunch of soldiers still overseas and a senate loaded against him from the word go. You'd need to be a serious hardball type to get through all that unscathed, and that's not what he is. Hence, he's having a rough time of things.

[roguefankc]

Thank you. Because not enough people say it.

[psychopathicus_rex]

You're welcome. Anytime.

[arilou_skiff]

Eh, I think Obama is a pretty decent president, but he's still the president of the US, and thus subject to all the limitations that come with that office.

[thelazyreader]

When Bush was president he made his share of appearances in Marvel. The only difference here seems to be that Marvel seems to be actually trying to cash in on Obama's popularity.

Say, don't they owe him royalties for using him in their stories?

[strannik01]

No. Bush and Obama are public figures, so they're in public domain by default.

[recognitions]

Obama's problem is he thinks he can play nice with everyone, and that includes big business and Republicans. He's making some strides, but I have to wonder how much further he'd be willing to go if he pushed harder, instead of telegraphing ahead that he's willing to compromise when they other side isn't, at all.