This is a follow-up to my previous post about the Three of a Kind crossover featuring Flash, Green Lantern and Green Arrow. This issue concludes the story with a criminal trial. Unlike the comic book trials I've read here before this one is pretty straightforward: no clones, no sidetracking, no questionable judgements, and what's more, it gives a rare glimpse into the legal status of superheroes in the DC universe.

Previously: Kyle Rayner, Wally West and Connor Hawke went on an Alaskan cruise and found supervillains Sonar, Heatwave and Hatchet on the same ship, planning to revive the insane electromagnetism-manipulating Dr. Polaris. This issue, written by Grant Morrison and Mark Millar, begins after the crisis is resolved and the villains captured.
For some reason the defendants are pretty open about what they did.

One would think the above confession would merit a guaranteed 'guilty' sentence. But the villains have gotten themselves a really smooth lawyer. He starts by leveraging their sheepish honesty for a little sympathy.

Heh. Like me, the heroes can't believe he said all that with a straight face. According to the prosecutor this is the guy Lex Luthor regularly hires for legal assistance. He moves on to the 'discredit the witness' tactic.

The legal status of superheroes in the DCU is somewhat of a murky area, so I found the revelations in the above page very interesting. Not only does DC have its own form of government registration for superheroes, this predates Marvel's Civil War by several years. That said it doesn't seem registration puts anywhere near as many restrictions on DC heroes, seeing they get to keep their identities secret from the government(Also, does the real-life 12th Amendment say anything about witnesses using aliases in court?).
Getting back to the story, once Polaris woke up he took the cruise ship apart in seconds and left the passengers to drown. Kyle couldn't do anything because he was fighting Sonar.

Polaris then decided to use his magnetic powers to melt the polar ice caps(however that works) and flood the world before Wally stopped him using the first General Principle of Electromagnetism.

I absolutely love the fact that Morrison(or Millar?) wrote Wally as a guy who regularly reads scientific journals in this issue. While Geoff Johns likes to downplay Wally's scientific knowledge and hype Barry Allen as the Flash who uses science to beat supervillains, Morrison/Millar remembered that Wally had studied for a doctorate in Physics and is far from a layman in such matters.

There's the whopper. Weinstein argues that since the trio were working for military intelligence they can only be tried in a military court(where they'll be tried by the same corrupt Generals who authorised their mission). Just when it looks like the bad guys are about to dodge justice, Connor delivers another whopper.

Apparently the Alaskan State Attorney has the power to overrule a military court, and since the incident took place in U.S. territorial waters off Alaska, the bad guys are going to jail after all. (Although they'll probably just break out or join the Suicide Squad...)
I can tell that at least a small degree of serious legal research went behind this issue. Possibly why this is one of my favourite issues from the Morrison/Millar run on The Flash.

Previously: Kyle Rayner, Wally West and Connor Hawke went on an Alaskan cruise and found supervillains Sonar, Heatwave and Hatchet on the same ship, planning to revive the insane electromagnetism-manipulating Dr. Polaris. This issue, written by Grant Morrison and Mark Millar, begins after the crisis is resolved and the villains captured.
For some reason the defendants are pretty open about what they did.

One would think the above confession would merit a guaranteed 'guilty' sentence. But the villains have gotten themselves a really smooth lawyer. He starts by leveraging their sheepish honesty for a little sympathy.

Heh. Like me, the heroes can't believe he said all that with a straight face. According to the prosecutor this is the guy Lex Luthor regularly hires for legal assistance. He moves on to the 'discredit the witness' tactic.

The legal status of superheroes in the DCU is somewhat of a murky area, so I found the revelations in the above page very interesting. Not only does DC have its own form of government registration for superheroes, this predates Marvel's Civil War by several years. That said it doesn't seem registration puts anywhere near as many restrictions on DC heroes, seeing they get to keep their identities secret from the government(Also, does the real-life 12th Amendment say anything about witnesses using aliases in court?).
Getting back to the story, once Polaris woke up he took the cruise ship apart in seconds and left the passengers to drown. Kyle couldn't do anything because he was fighting Sonar.

Polaris then decided to use his magnetic powers to melt the polar ice caps(however that works) and flood the world before Wally stopped him using the first General Principle of Electromagnetism.

I absolutely love the fact that Morrison(or Millar?) wrote Wally as a guy who regularly reads scientific journals in this issue. While Geoff Johns likes to downplay Wally's scientific knowledge and hype Barry Allen as the Flash who uses science to beat supervillains, Morrison/Millar remembered that Wally had studied for a doctorate in Physics and is far from a layman in such matters.

There's the whopper. Weinstein argues that since the trio were working for military intelligence they can only be tried in a military court(where they'll be tried by the same corrupt Generals who authorised their mission). Just when it looks like the bad guys are about to dodge justice, Connor delivers another whopper.

Apparently the Alaskan State Attorney has the power to overrule a military court, and since the incident took place in U.S. territorial waters off Alaska, the bad guys are going to jail after all. (Although they'll probably just break out or join the Suicide Squad...)
I can tell that at least a small degree of serious legal research went behind this issue. Possibly why this is one of my favourite issues from the Morrison/Millar run on The Flash.

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Date: 2011-01-21 04:27 pm (UTC)I really wish writers who insist on court scenes would spend a little time studying the law to at least convincingly fake it. There's no reason why they couldn't have just created some fictional act.
Also, the way their lawyers says "Oh, it was just a small petty crime that went wrong." is a pretty poor defense. That's still felony murder, and many states execute criminals for that. In addition, why would a lawyer hold onto something absolving his clients until the end?
Lastly, are we really supposed to believe that, even if Sonar was hired by the government, that they'd make any effort to bail them out? The entire thing was a SNAFU of the highest order. Those generals that would have hired Sonar et all would be more interested in burying them, not trying to help them avoid a dozen charges of murder.
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Date: 2011-01-21 04:50 pm (UTC)The fifth amendment covers the right not to self-incriminate oneself in a judicial proceeding, and I suppose I could see a superhero pleading the fifth when testifying if vigilantism is illegal in the DCU.
I think Lex Luthor would retain a more competent lawyer than this guy-- but I'm sure it'd be rather difficult to keep up with the caseload! I wonder how often Luthor sues and gets sued. (And how many of those lawsuits involve Superman ;] )
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Date: 2011-01-21 05:38 pm (UTC)To answer your earlier comments
-The prosecutor was aware Weinstein's arguments were flimsy. It appears he was mostly trying to create doubt and buy time till he could get that declaration in the end.
-The military mission in question created a diplomatic incident with Iraq, with the US government denying any involvement. Presumably it was a rogue operation by a few generals, or that the three crooks simply knew too many dirty secrets to let them face a public trial.
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Date: 2011-01-21 06:07 pm (UTC)As for the other stuff, I just can't see any General being willing to bail out Sonar etc given how poorly things went. But that's exactly what we see. Rescueing a powerful American metahuman from Iraq wouldn't create a big incident (even if we weren't at war with them at the time), but three criminals unleashing Polaris on innocent civilians?
That would cost any General their stars, career and possibly result in jail time. They wouldn't touch it with a 100 foot pole.
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Date: 2011-01-21 05:02 pm (UTC)Wrong amendment but the US legal system does provide the ability for a person to use something other than their real name if it's what they are more known by to the general public. Like say, Hulk Hogan instead of Terry Bollea during the McMahon steroid trials of the early 1990s or Jesse Ventura instead of Jorge Janos.
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Date: 2011-01-21 06:29 pm (UTC)How would that apply to say Batman or Superman whose civilian identites are well known public figures themselves?
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Date: 2011-01-21 07:11 pm (UTC)As for Batman, the Wayne brand name is well known Bruce is pretty hands-off with regard to Wayne Enterprises. He himself is mostly known within Gotham upper-class circles.
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Date: 2011-01-21 11:28 pm (UTC)While he's not hands-on, he is a big 'face'.
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Date: 2011-01-21 05:06 pm (UTC)Also. Tony & Reeds, this is how you enact some sort of registration/legal oversight without pissing all over the Constitution!
12th Amendment talks about election procedure....So yeah.....
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Date: 2011-01-21 06:32 pm (UTC)And really - is it possible Kyle had a headache? Does he drink a lot of coffee? I think I missed the part where that was the best way to discredit a superhero, especially one trained by the Green Lantern Corps. You'd think Luthor could afford a better lawyer...
And I get that Morrison isn't the best a writing details, but why the heck would he choose to write a trial? I can understand wanting to stray from your strengths as a challenge, but you'd think someone on the editorial staff would double-check the crazy legalese.
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Date: 2011-01-21 06:51 pm (UTC)Millar did get co-credited on the writing here too. I don't know anything about the behind-the-scenes division of labor, but I get the feeling that each of them was responsible for the more them-sounding bits of dialogue. (For instance, Kyle sounds more Morrisonny and Wally sounds more Millaresque, but maybe that's just me.)
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Date: 2011-01-21 07:53 pm (UTC)OH POLARIS
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Date: 2011-01-22 07:29 am (UTC)*trots over to site*
Thank you.
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