Date: 2011-02-04 02:02 am (UTC)
sherkahn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sherkahn
Oh, this won't end well.

Date: 2011-02-04 02:04 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
And she'll change her mind by the end of the storyline.

Harley is as crazy as the Joker.

Date: 2011-02-04 02:05 am (UTC)
sherkahn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sherkahn
Emotionally unstable? Probably?

Crazy? No.

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Date: 2011-02-04 02:11 am (UTC)
uadlika: (bat/cat love)
From: [personal profile] uadlika
Is this the same Selina who was playing with Bruce in Japan a month or so ago?

Date: 2011-02-04 07:44 am (UTC)
schala_kid: Stephanie Brown as Batgirl (batgirl)
From: [personal profile] schala_kid
I know right? It's like they can't make up their minds!

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Date: 2011-02-04 02:25 am (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
Now THIS I like.

Date: 2011-02-04 02:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
On the one hand, more power to both Selina and Harley. Though I can't say Bruce is as abusive as the Joker is, there's no getting around the fact that neither woman is completely happy in either of her relationships.


On the other hand, heeeeelllssssss. On uneven and perilous terrain no less.

Date: 2011-02-04 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamesfirecat.insanejournal.com
I wouldn't say Bruce is "abusive" so much as emotionally unavailable, he's by no means ready/capable to be in a normal loving relationship, but he's not intentionally trying to hurt the other person the way that Mr. J is...

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Date: 2011-02-04 02:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rainspirit
It'd be strangely fitting if Harley was the one to kill the Joker in the end, wouldn't it?

Date: 2011-02-04 03:50 am (UTC)
chipsnopotatoes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] chipsnopotatoes
Bleh. I can't decide which is worse -- the art or the writing.

Bruce looks really creepy there. Kind of like Christopher Walken.

Calloway writes a really awful Selina. She's either helpless victim or comes across angry but totally ineffective. After what Zatanna's done, all she can muster are empty threats? Pls!

If this book has to exist, then I hope DC drops Catwoman from this lineup and assigns her to another creative team.

Date: 2011-02-04 06:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jaybee3
All Selina has to do is to tell Bruce about Zatanna and Zee is done. With the super-hero community as well (if Bruce blabs). The only reason he has cut her slack for his own mind-wipe and others (including Catwoman) is that she seemed really repentant about it (unlike some of the other conspirators in Identity Crisis).

Considering Selina has gone for years without being "with" Bruce at any given time (and except when he was "dead" his non-presence didn't seem to affected her state of mind adversely) , I have a tough time buying that he occupies so much of her thoughts.

Selina might as well have been Character X in this story. Always reactive, never proactive.

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Date: 2011-02-04 03:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mullon
Are they really trying to stop Harley from killing the Joker?

Date: 2011-02-04 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Yeah--if anything, they should be stopping Harley there so that they can plan it right, make damn sure the bastard stays dead.

Date: 2011-02-04 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
I read their hesitation as being based on fear of Harley's wellbeing.

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Date: 2011-02-04 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thelazyreader
Has Bruce broken up with Selina again?

Date: 2011-02-04 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I don't read it like that--more just angsting over loving someone but only being able to go so far without their own respective issues getting in the way.

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Date: 2011-02-04 04:20 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
The lesson here: Don't love anyone, they'll only hurt you.

Date: 2011-02-04 04:21 am (UTC)
bluefall: Amanda Waller looking badass and displeased. (the Wall is not impressed.)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
Honestly, if this is the best you can do with Zatanna and Selina? Don't fucking write them.

Date: 2011-02-04 04:38 am (UTC)
ghosty732: Cinderella from Vertigo's Fables (Default)
From: [personal profile] ghosty732
I really liked the interaction between Zatanna and Catwoman during Heart of Hush.

This sorta ruins that. I can't imagine this is what Dini had in mind.

Date: 2011-02-04 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Yeah, Selina threatening to kill Zee is about as weird as Zee considering mind-wiping someone again.

Date: 2011-02-04 05:11 am (UTC)
sadoeuphemist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
Ugh, let's never get over anything and just keep wallowing in our bullshit emotional quagmires for the rest of eternity.

Date: 2011-02-04 06:28 am (UTC)
mad: I AM THE LIZARD QUEEN! (Default)
From: [personal profile] mad
When this title started, I decided not to buy it because all three women where wearing high heels on the cover and I thought that was stupid.

I clearly have good self-preservation instincts.

Date: 2011-02-04 07:01 am (UTC)
red_menace: (thara)
From: [personal profile] red_menace
Times like this I'm glad I dropped Sirens months ago.

Won't someone at DC grow a brain and bring back Will Pfeifer? He wasn't perfect but it was better than this, damnit!

Date: 2011-02-04 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
So... WHY is Catwoman angry at Zee again? And just what sets Harley off here?

Date: 2011-02-04 08:26 am (UTC)
sadoeuphemist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
Zatanna mindwiped Catwoman into becoming a good guy. Harley saw the parallels between her relationship with the Joker and Catwoman's relationship with aauugggghhh who cares it's a terrible terrible story with everyone angsting over every god damn thing in their lives.

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Date: 2011-02-04 12:45 pm (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
All I can say is..
FINALLY. o_O

Date: 2011-02-04 01:18 pm (UTC)
whitesycamore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
I've never really understood why Selina fell in love with Bruce in the first place. Sure, he's a strong, noble, super-intelligent hero - but on the other hand he's very boring and has a face like a grumpy brick.

Admire him? Sure. Sleep with him every now and then? Why not. But to try and pursue some kind of deep romantic relationship with him... hell no.

Date: 2011-02-04 08:09 pm (UTC)
bluefall: Babs, looking grumpy and unimpressed (Babs is a grump)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
She fell in love with him pre-Crisis, when he was a genuinely caring, generous man with a powerful spark of humor and an occasional almost boyish sense of fun that led him to slide down banisters with a smile on his face in the middle of chasing badguys.

Bruce/Selina, like the mentally stable, happy, properly-raised Dick Grayson and the Babs Gordon who respects and loves her onetime mentor, is an artifact of a happier time, preserved into a new ill-fitting context by momentum, selective retcon, and the stubborn refusal of a small subset of fans and writers to accept the douchebag Batgod as the true face of their onetime hero.

Date: 2011-02-04 04:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Boo! And the Selina/Bruce interaction when written by Grant and Paul was so good too.

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