Date: 2011-02-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Tora)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
...wouldn't kicking an invunerable woman in the stomach just result in a broken foot? Why did his kick hurt J'onn, who is packing both invunerability and intangibility? This doesn't work on a few levels.

Date: 2011-02-05 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lonewolf23k
I think Wonder Woman's invulnerability isn't like Superman's "Aura of Invincibility", but more a function of her bones and tissue being far more resistant then an ordinary human's.

In such a case, striking them where there's solid bone is a bad idea. Hitting them in the soft tissue, while still difficult, isn't as dangerous.

...Still a case of jobbing in Diana's case.

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From: [identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com - Date: 2011-02-06 02:39 am (UTC) - Expand

He's done that before..

Date: 2011-02-05 08:41 pm (UTC)
steverodgers5: (Default)
From: [personal profile] steverodgers5
He did the same thing to the Hulk in their one and only fight in the 70es.
It didn't make any sense then, and it still doesn't make any more sense now with Diana..(Sigh!)
The 'Bat God' strikes again..

Date: 2011-02-05 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitecometrx7
and how is hal on the floor, did batman pull out his anti-GL ring attachment and punch thru his shield?

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Date: 2011-02-05 08:20 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Kouhei " Principal Garren " Hayami, the Libra Zodiarts, is bugged. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
I can see some of the logic in this, but I'm still going to go look at Dreamwar!Batman getting impaled and Ultraman punching that alt-Batman's head open for a minute or two.

Date: 2011-02-05 09:51 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Can you post those? I'd like some anti-Batgod stuff.

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Date: 2011-02-05 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
To quote Flash from JLU:

"There are so many reasons why that shouldn't have worked..."

Date: 2011-02-05 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hybrid2
This all look stupid.
and where's Black Canary?

Date: 2011-02-05 08:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
IIRC, since Wonder Woman's retconned entry into the DCU (Which post Perez reboot she had only been around since the time of Legends, so as an example, Dick was already Nightwing, Jason was Robin and the Giffen Justice League was about to form), Canary is now no longer a JLA founder, though I could be wrong.

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Date: 2011-02-05 09:37 pm (UTC)
cypherfdp: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cypherfdp
Hey look, something that the DCAU does better.

Date: 2011-02-05 10:13 pm (UTC)
red_menace: BFF? (Default)
From: [personal profile] red_menace
Oh, Batgod. You'll never not suck.

Date: 2011-02-05 10:22 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Kouhei " Principal Garren " Hayami, the Libra Zodiarts, is bugged. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
There's a couple Batman/Superman fights where it's worked, characterized by exactly precise timing and a mood on Batman's part summed up in a Loeb-penned aside, more or less " If this does not go EXACTLY AS PLANNED, I am dead "

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Date: 2011-02-05 10:27 pm (UTC)
bluefall: (facepalm Diana)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
My favorite thing about "she still needs to breathe" is that she kind of... doesn't? We've seen her go for hours in space or underwater, in extreme environments and exerting significant physical effort, with no trouble. Like, even if the kick making any impact made the least amount of sense, the logic still wouldn't.

Date: 2011-02-05 10:54 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
And, y'know, how long does it take to recover from getting the wind knocked out of you?

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Date: 2011-02-05 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
Also in the panel where Bats is kicking Diana, why is speech bubble for "nnngf!" pointing in 2 directions?

Is he simultaneously kicking someone on the ground with the toes of his other foot?

Date: 2011-02-05 11:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] domino_blue
Batgod can be written well...this is not one of those times. I also think that Batman should just shut the fuck up sometimes and let people do there jobs.

Date: 2011-02-05 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
I'm...pretty sure that when the Flash starts out running directly towards you from about six feet away, he'll reach you first even if he doesn't know where to go.

I mean, unless his navigational memory is about one footstep long, and he instantly begins veering in random directions anytime his vision is blocked. Which would be pretty funny.

Date: 2011-02-06 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Also, if you're capable of noticing an incoming power ring blast and whipping some dude around to use as a human shield against it, you're not Batman. You're not necessarily a Speed Forcer--you could be Karate Kid, or a Kryptonian on a good day. But you're not Batman.

Date: 2011-02-05 11:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] 01d55
This is just stupidly underselling every member of the League. Flash is fast enough to catch the gas pellet before it leaves Batman's hand, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Aquaman are each strong enough that they simply would not move when Batman strikes them. Also why is Green Lantern's ring a day-glo squirt gun?

TELLING DETAIL: Superman is not present.

Date: 2011-02-06 12:39 am (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
I'm sure he would just kick Supes as well cause magical bat-boots are the JL's weakness!

Date: 2011-02-06 12:01 am (UTC)
valtyr: (d'oh)
From: [personal profile] valtyr
Well, that's stupid.

Date: 2011-02-06 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimthehedgehog.livejournal.com
Aaaaarrrgghh! DieBatgodDie!!!

Is this canon or are these massively depowered versions of the characters?

Batman should look like he's standing still to Flash and shouldn't have a chance to even start to move his hand towards his utility belt before being taken out. Diana should *never* be sucker-punched/kicked like that! She should have awesome hand-to-hand combat skills, super-speed/reflexes, incredible tactical and strategic knowledge.

Date: 2011-02-06 02:02 am (UTC)
buttler: (capnope)
From: [personal profile] buttler
Wait, is Batman no longer a JLA founding member AGAIN?

Date: 2011-02-06 04:36 am (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
I don't think he ever was. The original Silver Age League was Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman and The Flash. Post-crisis, the Year One League was mostly the same cast with Black Canary taking Diana's place due to the continuity reboot. Post Infinite Crisis, Diana is back as a founder-- Dinah's status is less certain, as it varies from writer to writer.

Bats is usually portrayed as part of the second or third wave of recruits, along with Superman, Green Arrow, and the Atom.

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Date: 2011-02-06 02:07 am (UTC)
retro_nouveau: AARP Bruce (5)
From: [personal profile] retro_nouveau
Taking on the JLA while knowing absolutely nothing about them. Come on.

I did laugh when he shattered his knuckles. I stopped laughing when his slower-than-bullets kick got past the bracers.

Date: 2011-02-06 02:38 am (UTC)
darrylayo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darrylayo
Preposterous.

Date: 2011-02-06 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
So what are the pretty painted bits about? They interest me more than the rest.

Date: 2011-02-07 05:51 am (UTC)
thanekos: Kouhei " Principal Garren " Hayami, the Libra Zodiarts, is bugged. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
The idea's that Batman, in his skill-building world traveling youth, got involved in a Western Chinese superhuman conflict

sort of a contrast to this first meeting with the JLA

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Date: 2011-02-06 05:31 am (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
"But I'm betting she still needs to breathe." *KIC-KRUNCH*

"MY FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT."

Date: 2011-02-06 10:08 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Batman's monologue: Hh, he probably needs to breathe.

*kick*

Diana: OW! The hell man, you kicked me in the boob!

Seriously, that's what it looks like.

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Date: 2011-02-06 12:28 pm (UTC)
janegray: (Default)
From: [personal profile] janegray
This is idiotic.

Date: 2011-02-06 08:23 pm (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Super Bat Kon)
From: [personal profile] bariman
I hate all those batgod stories. It even extends to his sidekicks sometimes.

In "Teen Titans Year One," some random villain in a bug costume manages to take out Aqualad (via, um, being scary), Kid Flash (via clotheshanger... which should have taken his arm off), and Wonder Girl (via dynamite, which is the only one that makes sense), and hold them hostage so he can fight Robin, who promptly kicks his ass. So Robin > Bug Dude > rest of the Titans. Yeah.

And early in "Young Justice," pretty much the same thing happens with Harm: he kicks the asses of the rest of the team (Nerve gas shooter in his sword? Right.) then gets defeated by Tim. I know Tim is awesome, but come on.

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