Batman Confidential #53

[superfangirl1]

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[auggie18]

...wouldn't kicking an invunerable woman in the stomach just result in a broken foot? Why did his kick hurt J'onn, who is packing both invunerability and intangibility? This doesn't work on a few levels.

[lonewolf23k]

I think Wonder Woman's invulnerability isn't like Superman's "Aura of Invincibility", but more a function of her bones and tissue being far more resistant then an ordinary human's.

In such a case, striking them where there's solid bone is a bad idea. Hitting them in the soft tissue, while still difficult, isn't as dangerous.

...Still a case of jobbing in Diana's case.

He's done that before..

[steverodgers5]

He did the same thing to the Hulk in their one and only fight in the 70es.
It didn't make any sense then, and it still doesn't make any more sense now with Diana..(Sigh!)
The 'Bat God' strikes again..

[whitecometrx7]

and how is hal on the floor, did batman pull out his anti-GL ring attachment and punch thru his shield?

[superfangirl1]

Batman batrope hal ring arm and and pull slam him into the ground.

[thanekos]

I can see some of the logic in this, but I'm still going to go look at Dreamwar!Batman getting impaled and Ultraman punching that alt-Batman's head open for a minute or two.

[auggie18]

Can you post those? I'd like some anti-Batgod stuff.

[omgwtflolbbqbye]

To quote Flash from JLU:

"There are so many reasons why that shouldn't have worked..."

[hybrid2]

This all look stupid.
and where's Black Canary?

[icon_uk]

IIRC, since Wonder Woman's retconned entry into the DCU (Which post Perez reboot she had only been around since the time of Legends, so as an example, Dick was already Nightwing, Jason was Robin and the Giffen Justice League was about to form), Canary is now no longer a JLA founder, though I could be wrong.

[cypherfdp]

Hey look, something that the DCAU does better.

[red_menace]

Oh, Batgod. You'll never not suck.

[thanekos]

There's a couple Batman/Superman fights where it's worked, characterized by exactly precise timing and a mood on Batman's part summed up in a Loeb-penned aside, more or less " If this does not go EXACTLY AS PLANNED, I am dead "

[bluefall]

My favorite thing about "she still needs to breathe" is that she kind of... doesn't? We've seen her go for hours in space or underwater, in extreme environments and exerting significant physical effort, with no trouble. Like, even if the kick making any impact made the least amount of sense, the logic still wouldn't.

[auggie18]

And, y'know, how long does it take to recover from getting the wind knocked out of you?

[omgwtflolbbqbye]

Also in the panel where Bats is kicking Diana, why is speech bubble for "nnngf!" pointing in 2 directions?

Is he simultaneously kicking someone on the ground with the toes of his other foot?

[superfangirl1]

Bruce recollecting what he learn from his travel to become batman. The other "nnngf!" is from a training partner in a flashback.

[domino_blue]

Batgod can be written well...this is not one of those times. I also think that Batman should just shut the fuck up sometimes and let people do there jobs.

[silicondream]

I'm...pretty sure that when the Flash starts out running directly towards you from about six feet away, he'll reach you first even if he doesn't know where to go.

I mean, unless his navigational memory is about one footstep long, and he instantly begins veering in random directions anytime his vision is blocked. Which would be pretty funny.

[silicondream]

Also, if you're capable of noticing an incoming power ring blast and whipping some dude around to use as a human shield against it, you're not Batman. You're not necessarily a Speed Forcer--you could be Karate Kid, or a Kryptonian on a good day. But you're not Batman.

[01d55]

This is just stupidly underselling every member of the League. Flash is fast enough to catch the gas pellet before it leaves Batman's hand, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Aquaman are each strong enough that they simply would not move when Batman strikes them. Also why is Green Lantern's ring a day-glo squirt gun?

TELLING DETAIL: Superman is not present.

[tacobob]

I'm sure he would just kick Supes as well cause magical bat-boots are the JL's weakness!

[valtyr]

Well, that's stupid.

[jimthehedgehog.livejournal.com]

Aaaaarrrgghh! DieBatgodDie!!!

Is this canon or are these massively depowered versions of the characters?

Batman should look like he's standing still to Flash and shouldn't have a chance to even start to move his hand towards his utility belt before being taken out. Diana should *never* be sucker-punched/kicked like that! She should have awesome hand-to-hand combat skills, super-speed/reflexes, incredible tactical and strategic knowledge.

[buttler]

Wait, is Batman no longer a JLA founding member AGAIN?

[lieut_kettch]

I don't think he ever was. The original Silver Age League was Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman and The Flash. Post-crisis, the Year One League was mostly the same cast with Black Canary taking Diana's place due to the continuity reboot. Post Infinite Crisis, Diana is back as a founder-- Dinah's status is less certain, as it varies from writer to writer.

Bats is usually portrayed as part of the second or third wave of recruits, along with Superman, Green Arrow, and the Atom.

[retro_nouveau]

Taking on the JLA while knowing absolutely nothing about them. Come on.

I did laugh when he shattered his knuckles. I stopped laughing when his slower-than-bullets kick got past the bracers.

[darrylayo]

Preposterous.

[psychopathicus_rex]

So what are the pretty painted bits about? They interest me more than the rest.

[thanekos]

The idea's that Batman, in his skill-building world traveling youth, got involved in a Western Chinese superhuman conflict

sort of a contrast to this first meeting with the JLA

[pyrotwilight]

"But I'm betting she still needs to breathe." *KIC-KRUNCH*

"MY FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT."

[espanolbot]

Batman's monologue: Hh, he probably needs to breathe.

*kick*

Diana: OW! The hell man, you kicked me in the boob!

Seriously, that's what it looks like.

[sinisterlink]

And you DO NOT want to kick/hit a woman in the boob. It makes us very angry.

[janegray]

This is idiotic.

[bariman]

I hate all those batgod stories. It even extends to his sidekicks sometimes.

In "Teen Titans Year One," some random villain in a bug costume manages to take out Aqualad (via, um, being scary), Kid Flash (via clotheshanger... which should have taken his arm off), and Wonder Girl (via dynamite, which is the only one that makes sense), and hold them hostage so he can fight Robin, who promptly kicks his ass. So Robin > Bug Dude > rest of the Titans. Yeah.

And early in "Young Justice," pretty much the same thing happens with Harm: he kicks the asses of the rest of the team (Nerve gas shooter in his sword? Right.) then gets defeated by Tim. I know Tim is awesome, but come on.