angelophile: (Chuck Norris Approved)Angelophile ([personal profile] angelophile) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2011-02-25 11:32 pm UTC
Entry tags:char: angel/archangel/warren worthington, char: caliban, char: callisto, char: nightcrawler/kurt wagner, char: storm/ororo munroe, creator: chris claremont, creator: paul smith, publisher: marvel comics, theme: black history week, title: uncanny x-men


For Black History Week.

Back in Uncanny X-men #170, Angel had been kidnapped by the Morlocks to be their leader, Callisto's, love slave (hey thar Claremont) and Kitty is dangerously ill, thanks to the Morlock Plague. Which leaves the X-men with no choice - the only way to save their friends is to claim the right of leadership over the Morlocks and the only way to do that is by defeating Callisto. Step forward... Nightcrawler! But apparently the leader of the X-men has other ideas...

Storm 1

Storm 2

Storm 3

Storm 4

Storm 5

Lesson #1 in Don't Fuck With Storm class.


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protogarrett: (Toph)


[personal profile] protogarrett
2011-02-26 12:04 am UTC (link)
Classic stuff. I love this story. =D

And then Callisto was fine.

And then got tentacles.

And then was depowered.

Then got repowered to horrifying proportions.

Now limbo.

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shadowpsykie: Information (Oracle)


[personal profile] shadowpsykie
2011-02-26 02:52 am UTC (link)
you forgot when Callisto and storm had... "Hot tub time" :

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protogarrett: (Toph)


[personal profile] protogarrett
2011-02-26 12:15 am UTC (link)
stormharley

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punishermax: (pic#748010)


[personal profile] punishermax
2011-02-26 12:34 am UTC (link)
I know it's probably n error but I love how the Dont Fuck is in the first panel.

I like to think the prison's leaders put that on both their cells (maybe with an arrow pointing to the respective girl) and Harley just wrote "with Storm" on the paper"

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protogarrett: (Toph)


[personal profile] protogarrett
2011-02-26 12:45 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I just kinda whipped that out with an online editor in, like, two minutes. Errors and grammar issues abound.

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zenbro: (mystique)


[personal profile] zenbro
2011-02-26 12:15 am UTC (link)
Yay, I still have this. I think it was the first time Ororo actually got physical, aside from kicking Sebastian Shaw in the face (which turned out to be a bad idea.)

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budige_at_home: (suske299)


[personal profile] budige_at_home
2011-02-26 12:18 am UTC (link)
Great post, thank you.

I noticed something that I'd never seen from this before. In the top middle panel when Ororo stabs Callisto Storm's arm is in the center of Callisto's chest and we can see Callisto's fingers from her right arm in the panel. The shot before was of Storm binding and raising Callisto's arm.

It would have easy to draw or imply the knife entering the right mid axillary region of Callisto's chest, but that's not the case. The middle panel is very clear that Callisto's arm is moving downwards and that the blow is to the medial of the chest or further to the left.

The point being that story tellers wanted the image to perfectly convey the idea that Storm stabbed her directly in the heart and the weight of the moment.

That blade could possibly be long enough to penetrate the heart from the right axillary side but that would be lazy story storytelling.

Hurray for well thought out details. Hurray for proper anatomy. Yeah Storm.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-02-26 12:29 am UTC (link)
I thought the heart was centrally located in the thoracic cavity and the "it's on the left" is more traditional, but not correct.

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budige_at_home: (SuskeEnWiske69Ufo)


[personal profile] budige_at_home
2011-02-26 12:59 am UTC (link)
That may be the case in some views but what I was taught and see at work is that it's mostly to the left. You can think about the your neck veins coming together at the top of you sternum, slightly to the right and becoming the superior vena cava that enters the R atrium of the heart.

The R atrium is a bit central (almost to the right side of the sternum), and the rest swing down and to the left. A good way to think about it is in reference to the lungs. We have more lung on the right, 3 lobes, and only 2 lobes on the left. Below the 2 lobes on the lefts is where the heart swings out. This picture also work for remembering where the liver is (the apex of the three lobes on the R is a little higher than the 2 on the L to make room for the liver below it).

A simply way to think about it is if you make a fist with your left hand and place it on your chest with your thumb a couple of inches below the top of the sternum and you pinky finger almost touching your left nipple. This is an approximation for the size and location of the heart.

I hope that helps. Yea Storm.

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budige_at_home: (SuskeEnWiske69Ufo)


[personal profile] budige_at_home
2011-02-26 01:05 am UTC (link)
Just read my own comment and I came across as a trolling ass.


It's a very valid point to say the heart lays mostly in the middle. This is why CPR works as a physical lever on the heart.

Yea Storm

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icon_uk: (TheBlackCat Happy Terry)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-02-26 12:39 pm UTC (link)
Not trolling at all, it was very informative, perfectly polite and it was a genuine answer to a genuine question, so it's all good! :)

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cleome45: (postcard1)


[personal profile] cleome45
2011-02-26 12:19 am UTC (link)
Paul Smith's stuff didn't do it for me. It was technically nice, but it always felt so... hollow. I could admire it up to a point, but I never warmed to it.

I also remember, at the time, being once again irritated about the whole "ugly"-people (especially women) are evil and bad-- again. I suppose as she got to be more sympathetic, Callisto got more conventionally attractive, right?

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zenbro: (mystique)


[personal profile] zenbro
2011-02-26 12:41 am UTC (link)
Yes. Same thing happened to Marrow as well. She went from skull-with- female-features to a button-nosed fairy princess with cute horns.

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angelophile: (Beast - Hmmmm)


[personal profile] angelophile
2011-02-26 01:29 am UTC (link)
Yeah, that element does tend to be rather grating. I did like Morrison's X-men in terms of him taking the "ugly" characters out of the underground and sticking them in the school with everyone else, although there was still that element of segregation, it did muddy the waters as far as the "ugly mutant = evil / attractive mutant = good" equation went.

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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2011-02-26 01:38 am UTC (link)
the most evil mutants are usually pretty attractive. Usually the ugly mutants are just kind of thuggish. The pretty ones want to conquer and enslave. The ugly one are just stand-offish and short tempered.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-02-26 12:50 pm UTC (link)
Before Morrison came along, we'd had Marrow, Skin, Penance and Chamber as students/X-Men, which perhaps wasn't a massive step in the right direction, but seems to have been at least a start.

IIRC around the time the story above came out, Claremont had plans to make Caliban a resident of the X-Mansion, replacing Cerebro as "handy mutant tracker", but changed his mind.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-02-26 12:42 pm UTC (link)
I think it's the other way round in this case, for at least some of the characters. Whilst some of the Morlocks were the "non-pretty mutant" kind, a lot of them were normal looking but let Masque alter them so they weren't normal looking as a sort of gang initiation.

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[personal profile] tpsreports
2011-02-26 02:52 pm UTC (link)
You see I love Smith's work but maybe it's because these are the X-men I grew up with.

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lencannon: shy guy (pic#364813)


[personal profile] lencannon
2011-02-26 01:55 am UTC (link)
This is my favorite Storm. I really love the character, but her current incarnation isn't doing it for me. I like the IDEA of Storm the Queen, Storm the Goddess, but the one that really draws me in is Storm the Asskicker. I like her thief background, I like her mohawk phase, it just draws me in. She has the best power in the world but she will rip a motherfucker's heart right out.

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[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
2011-02-26 07:12 am UTC (link)
I would modify that to 'she will if she absolutely HAS to'. I think one of the key elements of Storm's character is her dedication to nonviolent solutions, if such are to be found. That being said, if they're the only way, she'll go there in a heartbeat. Soft exterior, heart of gold, but will of iron.

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namey: (tell no tales)


[personal profile] namey
2011-02-26 04:27 am UTC (link)
This is a good post and you should feel good.

This was part of DP Returns (or near it), I think? Whole thing was pretty nifty.

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starwolf_oakley: (pic#913953)


[personal profile] starwolf_oakley
2011-02-26 04:47 am UTC (link)
Part of Storm's issues here was Mastermind screwing with her head... somehow. Mastermind was behind a lot of plots at this point in X-History.

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zenbro: (mystique)


[personal profile] zenbro
2011-02-26 05:04 am UTC (link)
Are you sure? This was after Dark Phoenix and Jean had turned his brain into mush by then. IIRC, this period was just before Storm went to Japan, was inspired by Yukio's wild ways, and came home and did her mohawk phase. The rest of the team was shocked and concerned that she was being mind-controlled, but she even told Xavier to go ahead and examine her mentally to make sure and he found nothing out of the ordinary. I thought it was just a development of the character, that she was just trying to work out how to step into her role as the new leader after Cyclops left.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-02-26 12:57 pm UTC (link)
IIRC This was also around the time she went through some changes because of her extended time away from Earth during a Shi'ar space saga.

She'd lost her established link with Earth's biosphere that she'd taken for granted, and as such her control over her powers was slightly askew and she was unsure of herself, so was taking control in different ways.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-02-26 12:52 pm UTC (link)
Don't recall that being the case. Is it a much later reveal?

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starwolf_oakley: (pic#913953)


[personal profile] starwolf_oakley
2011-02-26 06:40 pm UTC (link)
UNCANNY X-MEN #175. Mastermind was explaining his plan to Madelyn Pryor. He wanted revenge on the X-Men and some other people as well. It included Rogue running away from Mystique and Mariko abruptly canceling her marriage to Wolverine.

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arbre_rieur: (DC Nation)


[personal profile] arbre_rieur
2011-02-26 07:02 am UTC (link)
What are Callisto's powers again?

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[personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
2011-02-26 07:13 am UTC (link)
If I recall correctly, she has tracking powers, something like Wolverine's only more specialized.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-02-26 12:57 pm UTC (link)
It's been sort of vague, but enhanced hunting abilities, sharper senses, better reactions etc.

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proteus_lives: (Ron Swanson)


[personal profile] proteus_lives
2011-02-26 07:42 am UTC (link)
This could lead to "Chris Claremont's Fetishes" week.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-02-26 12:58 pm UTC (link)
Claremont writes something OTHER than fetishes? (And I say that as one who grew up reading his stuff from before the Dark Phoenix Saga)

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greenmask: (lollerskates?)


[personal profile] greenmask
2011-02-26 01:11 pm UTC (link)
So good.

So glad they chose to have Storm carry Angel, after beating Callisto. No, she will not stop yet - she has more physical feats to perform and more charge to take.

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mcity: (not bowered)


[personal profile] mcity
2011-02-26 02:33 pm UTC (link)
...Callisto looks like Jane Lynch.

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zenbro: (aquaman yay!)


[personal profile] zenbro
2011-02-26 06:49 pm UTC (link)
I always thought she was modeled after Patti Smith.

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darrylayo: (Starbuck)


[personal profile] darrylayo
2011-02-27 06:48 am UTC (link)
True.

And I never EVER understood why she was a Morlock. She wasn't deformed or "unable to live in society" or anything like that. Crazy as a sack of bats but not a physical weirdo needing to live underground.

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halloweenjack: (Halloween Jack)


[personal profile] halloweenjack
2011-02-27 10:15 pm UTC (link)
I think that there was supposed to be something in her past that had cost her her eye and also her looks--she had some kind of flashback to a time in the past when she was more conventially pretty.

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darrylayo: (Starbuck)


[personal profile] darrylayo
2011-02-28 06:45 am UTC (link)
Eye or no eye, looks or no--she's not *deformed* or otherwise an obvious *mutant*

That's what I mean.

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darkblade: (Molly vs Bus)

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[personal profile] darkblade
2011-02-27 04:40 am UTC (link)
As someone who grew up on the X-Men cartoon in the 90s and saw this fight with bo staff I was rather shocked when I later read the story out of my Dad's longboxes and saw how brutal it was.

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