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Or: why public functions in the DC universe are incredibly awkward.

Inspired by this action figure.

That last panel gets me every time.

Date: 2011-03-22 06:23 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Could be worse... they could have all those presidents that appeared in the last 4 years. Amazons Attack, Final Crisis, New Kyrpton...

Date: 2011-03-22 07:01 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
That'd be kinda hilarious.

"We MUST imprison all women/submit to Darkseid/bomb the super-powered geniuses."

Date: 2011-03-22 09:04 pm (UTC)
turtlefu: (Default)
From: [personal profile] turtlefu
Maybe it's all the same guy? That would explain why it's bad decision after bad decision.

Date: 2011-03-22 10:02 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Its pretty bad when you make Lex Luthor look like a better choice as president.

At least when Joker went all crazy in "Last Laugh," Luthor said "fuck it" and put a death order on the bastard.

Date: 2011-03-23 01:04 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
It IS all the same guy! It's all the same poorly-veiled George W. Bush analogue, except Bush was never as bad as the analogues.

Date: 2011-03-23 05:21 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Decisions as bad as the analouge made don't exist in the real world.

Date: 2011-03-22 07:37 pm (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
If they were it'd be AWESOME.

Date: 2011-03-22 10:26 pm (UTC)
glimmung: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glimmung
Something just occurred to me. Where is Lex's Secret Service detail? Retired presidents get one for the rest of their lives...

Date: 2011-03-22 10:38 pm (UTC)
deepspaceartist: Ed Robinson of Barnaked Ladies making a funny face behind Tyler Stewart (Default)
From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
But how may presidents go in and out of prison on supervillainy related charges? And would Lex even want government agents following him around, considering his villainy tendencies?

Date: 2011-03-22 11:25 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
What he wants may not be an option, and criminality doesn't invalidate his his term of Presidency.

Date: 2011-03-22 11:33 pm (UTC)
deepspaceartist: Ed Robinson of Barnaked Ladies making a funny face behind Tyler Stewart (Default)
From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
Well, it may not matter to the agents, but I am led to believe that Mr. Luthor is highly intelligent. When dealing with unnamed government agents, I'm reasonably certain he could give them the slip.

Date: 2011-03-22 10:42 pm (UTC)
sigma7: Sims (Default)
From: [personal profile] sigma7
Only optionally -- I imagine Lex is too paranoid to have federal agents around him 24/7.

Date: 2011-03-22 11:24 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I raised that very point on here a couple of weeks back, and it never really got answered.

Doesn't he also get to call himself Mr President for the rest of his life too?

Date: 2011-03-23 05:23 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Yes but he's too egotistical to not go by Luthor.

Date: 2011-03-23 05:31 am (UTC)
schmevil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] schmevil
This, and a bunch of other reasons, is why President Luthor should have existed in an elseworlds story.

Date: 2011-03-23 08:00 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
Superman: Red Son?

Date: 2011-03-23 07:14 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
Nah President Lex owned, they just needed to come up with an ending for it that wasn't "lex goes crazy, builds green and purple power armor to punch out superman"

Date: 2011-03-23 07:22 pm (UTC)
schmevil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] schmevil
Yeah, pretty much. I just wish they'd stop going into these things without committing. If you're going to do President Lex, fucking do it right, all the way to the end. /grumpy

Re: Completely random thought here.

Date: 2011-03-23 09:30 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
I'd hate on it more but I thought they did a pretty damn good job of it all the way up through like... everything before S/B Public Enemies.

It was a neat status quo change that switched up the dynamic between Lex and Superman in a continually interesting way.

It would've been nice if they'd ended it better but that was right on the cusp of when Jeph Loeb was going full-scale Jeph Loeb so what can you do?

Re: Completely random thought here.

Date: 2011-03-23 10:57 pm (UTC)
schmevil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] schmevil
You're right, but I'm gonna go on being an unreasonably grumpy comic fan about this one. ;)

Date: 2011-03-23 12:33 pm (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
Technically, No. In proper etiquette, he is Mr. Luthor or possibly 'former-president' Luthor. Normal etiquette rules indicate there is only one 'Mr. President' and that's the standing one. Former presidents were expected and usually did drop the title, prior to just recently.

Jimmy Cater, for example, has almost always been referred to as 'Mr. Jimmy Carter, former president of the United States' since he was in office. Likewise, it was Mr. Ronald Reagan, former president. It's only been recently that anyone has done otherwise...and mostly only at official functions or on 24-hour news channels.

I mean, he can call himself Mr. President if he likes, but he's not owed the title, any more than a former ambassador or governor would.

Date: 2011-03-23 07:56 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
Considering that Luthor committed numerous crimes and other illegal actions while in office, and only got into office with massive voter fraud, I would assume there was a Congressional order stipping Luthor of all his presidential perks. Might have been one of the papers Pete Ross signed without reading, right after the Project Hell proposal.

Date: 2011-03-23 12:16 pm (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
No, they actually don't, anymore. Bill Clinton was the last president eligible for that privelege (and it's a relatively recent privelge, at that). George W. Bush (and all presidents after him) only get up to a maximum of 10 years of protection, post-presidency. Opting out has always been an option.

Date: 2011-03-23 12:18 pm (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
And to clarify, post-presidential protection didn't exist until 1965. Harry S. Truman, for example, had no protection at all when he took a cross-country trip in the 1950s (though every town he passed that figured out he was there immediately assigned him a police escort).

Hell, the president didn't even get a pension until Truman (who didn't come from money) pushed for one, which Eisenhower eventually got passed.

Completely random thought here.

Date: 2011-03-22 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mr_cyn1cal
Just trying to imagine small talk between these guys.

Lex: "Had I designed the Challenger, it would not have crashed because it would -"
Clinton: "-have been made of Kryptonite. WE KNOW"

Re: Completely random thought here.

Date: 2011-03-23 07:59 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
Luthor actually did have at least two shuttles that I can think of, and they both crashed. The first was the space plane that Clark caught in his first official Superman appearance, and the second was the one in the Fantastic Four pastiche's origin (and that one led to the Cyborg Superman). So even Luthor doesn't have a good record with shuttles.

Date: 2011-03-23 05:04 am (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
Does DC even use the 'real' presidents anymore? I know they had Ronald Reagan in 'Legends' but after that, did they bother? Thought they stuck to the Earthworm Jimish "Generic Presidents".

Date: 2011-03-23 05:24 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Depends on the writer and the story but usually it's the President at the time of publication under a different name.


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