scans_daily: .... dickery

blackruzsa (

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@ 2011-04-07 10:05 pm UTC

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char: nathaniel richards, char: stature/cassie lang, char: vision/jonas, title: young avengers

.... dickery

The one thing that pissed me off in Avengers: the Children's Crusade #5

People acting like Vision has no feelings.

Okay, so I gave in. I thought, Cassie's an okay character. Given, my least favorite character, but an okay character nonetheless.

SCRATCH THAT, SHE'S A DICK.

Nate, I forgive, since he's not quite totally aware that 1) Vision got newfangled feelings and humanity and 2) He was dating Cassie. I think.

Cassie, on the other hand, drops Vision like a hot potato as soon as Iron Lad drops in, forgetting that Vision--NO, JONAS, LOVED HER.

:I Cassie, you are dead to me. Dead to me.

....

Okay, rant over. Disregard all that I said up there, or most, anyway, since it's a rage-filled opinionated thingie. Unless, you know, you agree with me, at which point we can rant together.

I know Cassie hasn't done that ~~yet~~ but as of yet, she's still being insensitive to Jonas' feelings. I know she's not a total dick, but she still has dickery tendencies that I cannot let pass without them getting called out.

TBH Cassie's character has not appealed to me all that well. She was cruel to her mother, to her stepfather, she decided after two hours that Nate was her boyfriend... She is a brat. A brat with good qualities, but with the essential qualities of a brat, all the same.

Poor Jonas. He is his own person, dear god, and they treat him like a prop.

.........

And okay, so I laughed at the idea, even the suggestion, that Vision would go to Wanda again. Really, Nate, really?

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	no subject tahngarth.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 02:19 pm UTC (link)
	Ideally for me, this series would end with the original Vision and the new Vision being merged, so we could finally have the right Vision back while not losing the new guy. Don't get me wrong, Young Avengers has been cute, but I prefer my Avengers "classic". (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 16 comments) (Show 16 comments)

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blackruzsa
2011-04-07 02:22 pm UTC (link)

Well I wouldn't go for merging them. Jonas has experiences, he's traveled all over the world, he has FEELINGS AND A LIFE. He speaks in slang because he learned it, not because it was input in his data.

I'd like it if Vision came back, forcing Vision II to get himself a different identity and be more Jonas than he is Vision.

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	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-07 02:36 pm UTC (link)
	He seems to be doing it for fun, since everyone in the fanbase has been thinking it, but still, low blow, man, low blow. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject tahngarth.livejournal.com 2011-04-07 02:41 pm UTC (link)
	It really depends on if the United States of Marvel earth see Immortus as a rightfully ordained minister? He was the one performing the ceremony, and they weren't in the US at the time either (as I recall). I'm not even sure how the legal bit of that works out! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 6 comments) (Show 6 comments)

	no subject ian_karkull 2011-04-08 07:35 am UTC (link)
	Even if it had been legal in the first place, The Vision, Wanda and the entire Universe got destroyed and remade atleast once in the meantime, so that should be enough grounds for annullment. Nobody's even quite the same person anymore. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject crabby_lioness 2011-04-07 02:44 pm UTC (link)
	Cassie is 14. All 14yos are insensitive jerks with no impulse control at least some of the time. It's in their contracts. If she were 24 or even 16 I wouldn't give her a pass, but this behavior is typical at her age. I don't see anything here that normal 14yos don't grow out of. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject fifthie 2011-04-07 05:34 pm UTC (link)
	Lots of 14 year olds act like assholes, but that doesn't really excuse them for being assholes. You don't give 14 year olds a pass, you tell them they're terrible, stupid little shits until they finally take the hint and start learning to act like human beings. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject lencannon 2011-04-07 03:12 pm UTC (link)
	I have to say, it is difficult to judge. When you live in a world where dead or otherwise irrevocably lost loved ones can reappear at any time, what is the etiquette regarding relationships? It is a problem we (unfortunately, probably) don't have to worry about. (Reply to this)

	no subject dorksidefiker 2011-04-07 03:55 pm UTC (link)
	I'm just hoping someone (Preferably Jonas) CALLS them on their behavior. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-07 10:45 pm UTC (link)
	Yes please. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-07 10:46 pm UTC (link)
	True. I'll let it pass that it's definitely a crisis for Cassie at this point, and I hope she's mature enough to make the right choice. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject fifthie 2011-04-07 05:31 pm UTC (link)
	So wait, the actual Wanda's back? Has she said "Oh no more mutants was a stupid idea, uh, mutants again" yet? Or is there some asinine reason she can't do that, to go with the asinine reason she did it in the first place? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject salinea 2011-04-07 05:37 pm UTC (link)
	she's only been back for one panel. We'll know more in June. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject hybrid2 2011-04-07 06:34 pm UTC (link)
	Woah! She compleately forget Jonah when Iron lad show up. and Jonah is not the same Vision! I just want to slap them. I'd love the see Victor Shade back. There's no reason not to have 2 Vision. Or a Kid Vision. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-07 10:52 pm UTC (link)
	Or Jonas could go beyond being Vision XD I JUST WANT HIM TO GET AN IDENTITY OUTSIDE OF BEING "THAT ROBOT". (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject schala_kid 2011-04-07 07:28 pm UTC (link)
	My feelings exactly when poor Jocasta found out that Hank was just interested in bringing Jan back and not her. Although in Hank's defense I don't think he consciously meant to lead her on. I guess robots should not enter relationship with people that use Pym particles. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-07 10:53 pm UTC (link)
	That must be it. Is it also a fact that people who use Pym particles turn out to be jerkfaces? Not including Scott, I mean. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject sinisterlink 2011-04-07 07:28 pm UTC (link)
	I'm kind of in love with Vision and his passive aggressiveness. Iron Lad: If you'll have me, Cassie. Vision: Of course, WE will. smilesmile (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject pyrotwilight 2011-04-07 07:38 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, makes me feel bad for the guy. Poor Jonas. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject q99 2011-04-07 08:32 pm UTC (link)
	Someone needs to do a "Humans are Jerks to Vision," post. I remember some incident where old Vis saved a civie's life, and she immediately ran to someone else asking to be saved from Vis because 'he's just so cold.' (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-07 10:56 pm UTC (link)
	.... Wow, that's terrible. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject rordulum 2011-04-07 10:58 pm UTC (link)
	I thought Iron Lad was a young Kang the Conqueror. Is that really someone they should want back on the team? Plus, he seems like a bit of a dipshit. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 8 comments) (Show 8 comments)

	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-07 11:00 pm UTC (link)
	Well he isn't REALLY a dipshit, except when it's about Cassie. He's otherwise fairly lovable and awkward. And they have a prince of the Skrull and the Kree and the son of one of the most powerful witches in their known universe on their team. Pre-Kang the Conqueror seems pretty standard. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject flash_fan 2011-04-08 01:33 am UTC (link)
	Yep this confirms it. I'm just not a fan of blonde female teen superheroes named Cassie; no matter then universe. Their personalities put a bad taste in my mouth. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-08 09:53 am UTC (link)
	Motto, man. I can't say I hate DC Cassie because I haven't read of her but from what I've heard, there's still no appeal either. And it doesn't help that I'm one part petty fangirl and she gets in the way of my OTP. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject roguefankc 2011-04-08 05:01 am UTC (link)
	Personally, I lost respect for her ever since she left Cap's side and joined the Registration side during the Civil War and pretty much kept spouting off the self-righteous verbal-vomit of how "registration means saving people's lives". So you're not alone. =) (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)