I hope, if I have one redeeming feature...

[icon_uk]

it's that I can give credit where credit is due. I'm not a fan of much of Devin Grayson's output, but she can write a darn good character scene, Jim Lee tends to leave me unimpressed, but he can draw a darn pretty Dynamic Duo from time to time.

And so, in the interests of fairness and honesty I have to say that I liked this inteview up at newsarama

In which Judd Winick speaks about his forthcoming arc on Batman and Robin....

Nrama: But this Batman isn't Bruce. This is Dick. What are Jason's feelings about him?
Winick: Jason hates Dick Grayson. He's the good son; he's the one that worked out; he's the one that "Dad" loves best. For me, there's a philosophy behind Jason and Dick that I haven't had a chance to play out fully. I don't think it's going to play out in this story, because it's probably not the place for it. But I don't mind putting the philosophy out there:

One thing that haunts Jason is that he thinks if Dick Grayson who was the one that was about to die, Batman would have saved him.
And worse, if Dick Grayson was murdered, Jason knows that Batman would have killed Joker. He knows that in his heart.

The dark, dark thing for Jason is that he doesn't feel Bruce's refusal to take revenge on the Joker is just about Batman's morals and code that he won't break. He thinks it's about him. He thinks that if Dick Grayson was the one who was murdered, Batman would have definitely killed Joker.

Nrama: So what do Dick and Damian think of Jason as they are forced to kind of team-up with him in this story?

Well, you'll need to go to the interview page to read the answer to that, it's only fair to Newsarama. :)

That's a nice summation of Jason Todd's feelings for Bruce and Dick, and expressed more clearly than I think it has been shown in the comics (IMHO of course). Especially the notion that Jason is convinced that if Dick had died, Bruce WOULD have killed the Joker (The events in "Infinite Crisis" where Bruce pulls a gun on Alex Luthor sort of support that, depending on how you read the original scene) This actually makes me want to read the issues to see how it plays out. Kudos to Mr Winick for that.

For context, the cute, how Jason probably views the role of Robin (These were designed by one of my favourite artists Andy Price for Lego Batman T-shirt that alas, they only made in child sizes, because I would wear the hell out of any of them!)




For fun, the sublime, the history of the Robins, in animated form



Which originated here

And for legality, the ridiculous, in the form of a "Context is for the weak" from "Batman: The Cult"

Comments

[citygod]

Well, I know a child who is going to wear those shirts, if he wants to or not! Where can I get them?

[hyperactivator]

interesting

[mrstatham]

In the UK, I've seen ones like those, or very similar, in the childrens clothing sections of Tesco.

[icon_uk]

Yes, I've seen the basic ones with the sort of "posed photograph of the mini-figures" types in supermarkets over here, but not the cartoon-y type ones in the post.

[icon_uk]

I got these images off e-bay, so that might be your best shot.

Or there's Amazon, which has a few, including this one

[icon_uk]

Oh, and this one



Can be obtained in the UK from play.com in an adult size, but it's perhaps a little... disturbing.

[trafalgar]

The animated Robins (so cute!) is from here: http://kuromdbox.blog104.fc2.com/

Neat stuff. :)

[icon_uk]

Thank you, I'll add in a link to the main post. There's some seriously (and in some cases weirdly) cute stuff there! :)

[trafalgar]

Yeah, there's some underage Damian stuff too, so that might be worth a warning, I forgot to mention.

[icon_uk]

Hadn't got that far when you posted that, thank you for the warning.

Still there are some other nice bits like the recasting of "The Batman" opening title frame here

[citygod]

great info, thanks. That Bane shirt is hilarious. But if I gave that to my friends kid, I'd never get invited over again!

[trafalgar]

I would watch the hell out of that show. Even though a lot of The Batman was a little hit or miss for me. But not too bad, overall.

[thehefner]

I've been revisiting The Cult ever since some people have used scans of that to dismiss my "Why Batman would never use a gun" scans from Seduction of the Gun. Man, what an ugly, disgusting relic. If there's a plus side to take away from that story, it's knowing that most Batman comics didn't grossly follow the worst traits of Dark Knight Returns Miller Batman to the extent that Starlin, Wrightson, and Wray did.

[icon_uk]

I confess I've never been a fan of "The Cult", for the very reasons you cite, like much of the era, it's trying to be like DKR whilst overlooking the fact that DKR worked because it was set in a notional future and so could get away with more.

I was stunned to realise that "The Cult" is still apparently in canon (Deacon Blackfire showed up as a Black Lantern)

It does have a nice scene or two with Jason as Robin being about as badass as he ever got to be, but the overall sub-DKR grotesquery of it put me off it big time (And I really hate having to say that about anything by Berni Wrightson, a genuinely awesome artist)

[thehefner]

Motto to absolutely everything here, right down to Wrightson being genuinely awesome. I'm glad their sequel got reworked as a Punisher story. It fits Castle's world much better.

[stubbleupdate]

The Best thing about Lego Batman the video game is being able to do that to everybody as Bane.

[icon_uk]

Also here

[icon_uk]

I don't play as Bane too often, but that's good to know, and I ADORE the Lego Batman game more than is probably entirely healthy! :)

[jlbarnett]

I'm beginning to think that the reason Miller wrote ASSBAR Batman the way he did, and declared it to be the past of the DKR universe is he'd decided to show DKR Bruce was always fundamentally broken

[icon_uk]

Agreed. And given what DKSA said about Dick's fate, that just makes ASSBAR seem to be approaching the perverse deliberately; "See the happy, shiny Robin who seems to be making Batman happy, and who the writer has said is the real focus character... just wait..."

[schala_kid]

I've seen them in Wal-Mart in the US

[schala_kid]

I bought one of those Lego shirts in Large, I had to adjust it a little bit in the shoulder area since it was too large for me (every other part fit right or was tight, lol).

[icon_uk]

Unfortunately I'm over 6 feet tall, so I doubt I could wear one that didn't look embarrassing.

[shadowpsykie]

O 0
O Lego Batman is twisted......

[kamino_neko]

... Really?

Aaaw, I wish they'd kept that in the DS version. (Though I can see why they didn't.)